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[–] JackDark@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It uses AI to rearrange and resize content when you are printing from the internet. The example is pretty compelling, but doesn't make up for everything else HP does.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I must be living in the future...

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The example in the article reduces a recipe print from 47 pages to 1 by using AI to remove all of the filler garbage and leaves just the recipe instructions. Slightly different than just rearranging elements.

[–] robolemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Paprika 3 recipe manager does that too, plus it adds it to a local database, without any AI bullshit or HP account.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yup, it's a cool feature and I'll be sure to get some kind of open source tool that leverages my own computer ressources and isn't tied to such a terrible printer to do it.

[–] callmepk@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hi HP, I want my printer boring as it should be

[–] turtletracks@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Right? And what do you mean, untrustworthy? If anything, HP artificially created that issue lol

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

Huge article and it's just "Perfect Output" an AI to adjust printer settings and page setup. Don't read this waste of time.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When I print something, I certainly don't want AI messing with it. I often use a printed copy to make sure something will fit before I 3D print it or have a PCB made. I need it to print exactly at 100% scale.

I would love to have the page cleanup feature built into my web browser though. Hardly any sites include a print layout anymore.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would definitely use it for the examples like recipes and spreadsheeets to improve the formatting if it worked as shown.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

can't we just print the reader mode page of Firefox?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean you can but it won't look like the examples shown. Reader modes tend to focus on the text to the detriment of the pictures and formatting.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

Also they don't include comments, which are a huge part of my reading. I save pages to read on a e-ink tablet for comfort, html where pictures are irrelevant but pdf in case of any graphics.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow. Now we use AI to fix formatting issues.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Fair enough. But I don't think not using it for this use case will change much.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

One could use Perfect Output to quickly fix image sizes and remove ads and white space when printing something off a website, HP says as an example.

So Reader Mode for printing?

That seems like a feature that would be better handled by the browser than the printer—this is the equivalent of implementing reader mode by adding AI to your monitor.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plus, is this sending my data to HP to be processed remotely as a cloud service, or is this AI stuff being run locally? I don't especially want to have the contents of my print jobs being sent to HP.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wouldn’t be surprised if their AI rewrites their terms of service every time you try to print it.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

What, "decent"? They're just jumping on the AI bandwagon.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

HP is doing a lot of advertisement lately, the boycott must show first fruits. Fuck HP.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dont care. The only HP printers I'll ever use moving forward are gonna be any I happen to get for free.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

...any I happen to get for free and I have no other working printers. I have a Brother color laser, so they have nothing I want.

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep. My parents have a Brother printer that I use, and I work in IT and got a free HP printer that I'm holding onto for when I move out. Otherwise, I'd buy a Brother printer.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Tough place to be. Really, who's going to give away a working Brother printer?

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Or.... just copy the text that you want to print in libreoffice and print from there

Moreover, I don't understand why HP is wasting lots of server processing power for this. If someone prints one page instead of 47, then they can downgrade from the highest plan of their ink subscription with 100 monthly pages to the lowest cheapest plan with only 15 pages. Maybe they plan to include a page with sponsored coupons in the printout?