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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago (60 children)

Fourth turning theory is fashy crap written by a play write and a business fund manager (people with no credentials for historical analysis), worshipped by people like Steve Banon.

Accordingly it's totally subjective, a guessing game.

Truth is: No one can predict what's going to happen.

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago

Fwiw it’s playwright

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 99 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Boomers were born on the third base and think they hit a triple

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Triples makes it safe. Triples is best

[–] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] guillem@aussie.zone 88 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Gen X ignored again, with which we are okay though.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 60 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Irinir@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was gonna post that but then I was, like, whatever.

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[–] toddalon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Exactly the comment I was looking for. Tip of the hat to you.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only thing that isn't okay is to mangle your sentence to conform to the obsolete "never end a sentence with a preposition because some old fogey said so hundreds of years ago" rule 😛

[–] TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm ok with ignoring this rule. Most of us do anyway. While we're at it, can we also put "never split the infinitive" on the chopping block?

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[–] guillem@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

ESL here, what would have been the more natural way?

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

It's an invented prescriptionist rule that was imported from studying Latin. You can completely ignore it and you'll get more natural sounding language.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We should just revive everyone who contributed to this dumpster fire and make them fix it before they can go back to being dead.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 68 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Do we REALLY want zombie Reagan and hundreds of others like that running around again? I dunno about you guys, but I'm so tired of living through Interesting Times ™️ and Unprecedented Events ™️. A zombie apocalypse where they don't eat our brains, but just fuck up the economy even more doesn't sound fun.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

Make Zombie Reagan take Carter's former place and build homes (by hand) for poor people.

The holy water that leaks out of the sink will probably burn him out of existence anyway.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the 1% against the working class, not generation against generation.

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, us genX did nothing about anything and just felt cool wallowing in our fake cynicism of "why do anything when nothing matters" so we're probably half as much to blame as the boomers

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's a certain selection bias to the "Weak Men, Hard Times / Strong Men, Good Times" just so historical analysis. You don't talk about all the folks that die during good times or bad times. You just point to the old people and your brain slips right past the selection bias that allowed them to live and others to die.

Trying to blame this generation or that is a fool's errand. What do you tell a population of Gen Xers who were dragged out to the suburbs and raised in these segregated hermitages for twenty years, then plunged into the capitalist meat grinder at the tail end of the post-war boom years? "Hey, you should have all just psychically linked up and formed a socio-economic Voltron to change a century's old system overnight"? Who can seriously believe that? The deck was stacked against you and yet we still have a litany of Gen Xers who struggled - even died - in their effort to undo the damage of prior generations.

And what do you say to all the children of WW2 refugees who washed up on America's shores and struggled to carve out a life for themselves in the graveyards of the First Nation's people? Or the Cold War refugees - the Korean and Vietnamese and Indonesian and Taiwanese and Venezuelan and Cuban and Spanish and Russian and North Africa and... and... and... - who came into the US as children and were promptly indoctrinated to hate their home countries by the white supremacist majordomos of the American imperial class?

Its easy to blame yourself or your neighbors or your generation. Its hard to see the bigger picture and how each of us fit into it. Its hard to know if we're doing the right thing, or doing enough of the right thing, or who is with us and who is against us given the sheer tsunami of bullshit in our information networks.

We're playing the game on Hard Mode. And I don't think anyone who cares enough to question and inquire about their efforts can really be held to blame. It's the folks who have burned the ability to care out of their souls that hold us back. And that's not a decision unique to a region or time period.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

To be fair, you were directly under thier control when they were in their biological primes so fighting back would have been harder. Also, it's you parents and all. So don't sweat it too much

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Boomers and Gen X lived in a paradise, destroyed it and now complain that things are shit.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Boomers really more than Gen X

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[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago

Boomers see the world wildly and in wild ways

[–] adhocfungus@midwest.social 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I Think You Should Leave is such a gold mine of meme templates.

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's even an ITYSL meme maker & quote database

ithinkyoushouldquote.me

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Strongman leaders create hard times.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago

"hard men make good times, good times make soft men, and soft men make me hard" -Richard Rider

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

This is bullshit. Boomers, genXers and now millenials have been fighting against wild capitalism for decades, and a lot of them died fighting or are rotting in jail right now.

[–] Mobiledecay@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bickering about what generation is better. My favorite topic. 🙄

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don't need to give air to a fascist myth

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thanks, now my brain will forever connect this myth to gay sex

[–] LibreHans@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Dunno, I hear lots of young people say that.

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