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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 289 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

They weren't kicked out, iirc. Their contributions just aren't automatically merged anymore

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 226 points 2 weeks ago

And they are all welcome back if they can satisfy the Linux Foundation that they're not affiliated with a sanctioned entity on the SDN list.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 120 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But that headline is provocative, it gets people going.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does it? Russians can't do Russian stuff anymore isn't really controversial.

It is somewhat chucking the baby out with the bath water but I doubt anyone's losing sleep over it.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 83 points 2 weeks ago (46 children)

Oh noes, I bet lemmy.ml users all switch.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And nothing of value was lost

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 24 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Except their privacy—oh they didn’t have it to begin with.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Anything involving a ministry in Russia is not a serious plan. They'll receive funding, hire a couple of bash script writers, well, maybe a couple of people who'll write drivers for Elbrus, Baikal or something that's sort of developed and produced in Russia, but nobody really uses it even in governmental structures.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

One notable software business professional interviewed by RBC thought that the West’s decision would “adversely affect the life of the developer community, mutual trust within it, and therefore the quality of the product.”

It was Russia and other autocracies etc. that diminished the trust by actually financing developers for multiple years to first earn trust and finally introduce backdoors into open source software, as demonstrated by the XZ utils backdoor.

In open source projects, maintainers need to have some initial trust into each contributor, and let this trust naturally grow with time and contributions. They cannot perform intensive background checks on everyone before accepting a patch.

While it is easier to uncover backdoors in open source software, there is no good way to defend and prevent against this kind of attack in this type of development process. All open source projects can do is trying to take away some trust from people within higher risk groups. This of course might lead to discrimination.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a theory that sanctions against a country with a tyrannical ruler hurt the common people more than the oligarchs / dictator. But eventually they do make life more difficult for that ruler

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

The common people are the ones who overthrow the dictator eventually

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That happens relatively rarely. Remember the protests in recent years in Thailand, Hong Kong, Iran? They went exactly nowhere.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

TF you on? Just because there weren’t immediate, drastic regime level changes doesn’t mean they went “exactly nowhere”.

There have been many changes at smaller levels not being reported in mainstream western media. Public pressure called for MANY local officials to step down along with changes in law that have already started effecting everyday life, and at least in Thailand, some pretty major changes in how public officials are held accountable via more expansive auditing channels, thereby increasing transparency.

Not everything is a fucking hollywood movie wherein you have some Hunger Games style uprising against the elite.

In fact, it’s fucking insulting hearing people who haven’t an ounce of global exposure beyond whatever 2 or 3 media sources they shove their heads into saying “those protesters got nothing accomplished”.

Never let anyone tell you protesting doesn’t work.

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[–] horse_tranquilizers@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Where are the tankie posts now?

[–] quant@leminal.space 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Well confined in their instances for now. Wait until .ml and the Grad starts overflowing.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 25 points 2 weeks ago

Omg I bet lemmygrad is crying in their panties!

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It was the right move, but this needs to be expanded. Assume there are state actors from all of the major countries installing backdoors.

The digital war front will be getting hit from all sides. We need extreme paranoia to protect all of the innocent bystanders. Don’t assume even your own country is trustworthy in this.

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