I hate that social media business news qualifies as "technology" these days.
this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2024
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It doesn't, but the mods (not just these ones, but of any technology community) never seem to remove posts that aren't actually about technology.
Because the definition of what is and isn’t technology is arbitrary. Wikipedia says “Technology is the application of conceptual knowledge to achieve practical goals, especially in a reproducible way.” By that definition, social media is a technology (uses knowledge of computers and networking to enable online communication), but also so are most human creations.
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I have a really hard time seeing a difference between X and Bluesky. Both are run by billionaires for their amusement and benefit. Why are people so hopeful about bluesky?
Dorsey is no longer involved with Bluesky.
Oh, really? OK, that makes it definatelly less terrible. I guess I need to update myself about the organization behind it then. Thanks for the correction!
They got funding from Twitter and Jack was on the board for a bit, but he bailed and formally quit (funny enough he bailed because they did more moderation than he wanted)
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He's not involved with Twitter either. That doesn't make it not terrible.
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Having used it for several days now, I can tell you the difference is that Bluesky is a lot like Lemmy - not filled with hate and vitriol, and easy to make it what you want by selecting your feeds and following things you care about while pruning the rest.
The people who can't socialize properly with others are swiftly dealt with. Subscription blocklists make it really easy to just annihilate any possible interaction between yourself and undesirables. I have several blocklist subscriptions for MAGA chuds and White Supremacists for example. And when you block someone on Bluesky they can't see what you write and you'll never see anything from them ever again. Zero interaction from that point on. So the housekeeping actions actually keep the house clean.
Once you've done the initial housekeeping, it's just full of people talking about cool stuff, and when someone crashes the party to be nasty they are quickly shown the door. It's wonderful.
Also trying out Bluesky, and it is a lot like Twitter used to be, but it has the potential to turn out like Xitter is today, because at the end of the day Bluesky is a for-profit startup corporation.
Sooner or later, Bluesky is going to want to make money for its shareholders, and that means any of: 1) Selling advertisements, 2) Selling your personal data, and/or 3) In a classic tech startup play, selling itself to the highest bidder like: Android, YouTube, and yes, Twitter.
And with commercialization, or in Xitter's case a fool with too much money, comes enshittification.
Lemmy is nothing like a for-profit startup company, as far as I know, but that doesn't make it enshittification-proof, but at least it won't take the commercialization route.
I was talking about the atmosphere, not the architecture.
It's the best thing out there of its type right now. I'm not going to shit on it because of what might happen in the future. I'm sure something else will come along to move to if that happens.
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Because one of them is actively promoting and favouring viewpoints many people find abhorrent.
The fact it's owned by a billionaire isn't the major concern for most people.
Yes. Having centralized ownership (to whatever extent) is a concern for sure, but it's a hypothetical concern in and of itself: "what if the leadership does bad things?" Is different from "the leadership is currently doing bad things."
Decentralization helps. But if the networks effects aren't behind it, jumping from platform to platform when things DO get bad is also viable.
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It's run by a millionaire, not a billionaire. People like it because it's Twitter without Musk. That's it.
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The problem is not that they are billionaires. But one is run by an obvious malignant narcissist, and the other is not.
One is responsible the other is not.
Here's a very down to earth explanation of why Twitter after Musk became an ethical problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zfgIgZ4c0
The collapse of X should've been the movement to get rid of social media, not replace it with another identical platform
...he said on social media...
Okay, so it's a link aggregate, but still.
Why everyone's so happy about BlueSky and Threads though is what pisses me off, and it's that's they are in the safe arms of a corporate daddy.
Submissive little shites.
Decentralized/OSS platforms >>> Multiple competing centralized platforms >>> One single centralized platform
Bluesky and Threads are both bad but having more options than Twitter/X is still a step in the right direction, especially given the direction Musk is taking it in. As much as I like the fediverse (I won't be using either Threads or BlueSky anytime soon), it still has a lot of problems surrounding ease of use. Lemmy, Mastodon, Misskey, etc. would benefit a lot from improving the signup process so that the average user doesn't need to be overwhelmed with picking an instance and understanding how federation works.
You're not wrong about Lemmy also being social media, but I view it as my methodone for Reddit. Long term I think I will get rid of Lemmy too.
I think giving it up is sort of a cop out. It's like saying because all new movies suck, that you should stop watching films.
The good thing about Mastodon I feel is that people are more sincere than what you'll find here, or even on Threads.
I also think Beehaw has a good idea by being strict. If you dislike the brainrot, remove the brainrot. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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My guess is most normal people just want to be where every other normal person is and to have comment moderation enforced.
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So tired of hearing about this platform that, afaiu, is barely even federated and not really decentralized. Why the hype when fedi exists?
Talkin' 'bout the placebo syndrome.
Because there's VC money behind it.
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Mom said tomorrow is my turn to post the Bluesky article.
I'm liking bluesky a lot, seems like they rolled back most of twitters toxicity. I'm seeing a lot of communities jump over and I'm all for it, we need more options on social media.
Yeah, the constant negative circlejerking on Lemmy is getting pretty tiresome.
More competition is better.
Oh, gee, there's this thing called Bluesky that's an alternative to Xitter?
Never seen anything about it ever posted here and in every other community before, thanks for letting us know!
When bluesky gets enshitified i wont be suprised. Imagine tge alternative reality we could have had if they chose activpub.
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Despite the predictable dumpster fire of a comment section sharing this would inevitably lead too, I’m glad you shared it, it was a pleasant read.
what's the problem with mastodon?
- Mastodon's recommendation algorithm isn't sufficiently addicting
- Mastodon lacks venture capital to fund an army of PR flacks to plant stories in EVERY FUCKING NEWS WEBSITE IN THE UNIVERSE.
Pages that don't work well with darkreader aren't many, but when they do fail they fail somewhat entertainingly:
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