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Terraria's next update is delayed because dev will "not force anyone to crunch for an arbitrary deadline" (www.eurogamer.net)

submitted 7 months ago by nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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[–] Swedebearwood@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When the final update came out a few years ago I really believed in that! Now I still love the game and the dev team and their culture should inspire others!

[–] Mora@pawb.social 10 points 7 months ago

Which of the "final update, this time for real, believe me you guys, just this one more" do you mean? I think there have been at least 4-6 of those😂 But very happy, that is wasn't true yet.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 33 points 7 months ago

relogic being based as usual

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 7 months ago

They should crunch because they want great abs.

[+] hector@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Virtual worlds are affected by similar problems. If you look at e.g. Second Life, a relatively established one you will quickly realize it has all kinds of users with relatively minimal spec systems and use it in all kinds of contexts where they also do other stuff (e.g. work, watching kids,...). But people who try to build new ones tend to try to build them as VR which is completely useless to that entire user base because they can't afford a system that runs VR and also won't work in situations where you need to do other stuff at the same time.

Maybe what we need is more analysis and fewer visionaries.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think those games hit different brackets.

Star Citizen simply wouldn't be Star Citizen and would never take off if it looked like Terraria. A major part of its charm is how much life-like immersion it creates - things feel very real, not toyish, and you actually experience spaceflight and everything in between. And for that to work - and for people to spend hundreds of bucks on what is ultimately just a game - you need game graphics to be as great as you can pull off.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The assumption that you need amazing graphics for immersion is deeply flawed. We have had decades of people immersed in e.g. RPGs with very minimal graphics or even text only interfaces.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not exactly what I meant.

What I meant is that Star Citizen wants to be an immersive simulator, the kind of game that makes you feel whatever happens to you to be real and actual.

Terraria doesn't pretend to be real - it's magical and funny and silly and that's its charm. It might absolutely be immersive - but in another way. It's a game you come to to have some fun and wonderful experiences - not the game that grows to be your second life.

Now I make it sound predatory, and in part it is, but alas, hope I got my point across.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In my experience cranking one aspect (like graphics) up to 11 in terms of realism just makes all the other things that aren't realistic even more glaringly obvious in an effect sort of similar to the uncanny valley or to the way suspension of disbelief is harder to achieve in a movie that takes itself too seriously.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sure, but, to be fair, RSI has made decent work at polishing those angles. There's still plenty wrong about the mechanics, and it's buggy as hell too, but overall, I'd say I can immerse in SC in a way I cannot with any other game.

What kills SC in my opinion is not the "uncanny valley" feeling but rather the obvious greed and laziness of developers that essentially trapped themselves into profiting more off the unfinished game, thereby incentivizing themselves to stagnate. The game is very good as far as general gameplay is concerned - but the development incentives are screwed, and as a result, what could be a game of the century is now nothing but an empty promise or, at best, a sandbox.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Terraria: Thriving in 2024.

Starbound: Dead, with its bones eroded to dust.

Honestly had high hopes for Starbound. "It's like Terraria, but more!" And then Terraria kept gaining content while Starbound basically never got beyond what it had when it launched.

At this point, I want to just mod the sci-fi stuff and world hopping into Terraria.

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The modding community for starbound is super healthy though. It's basically the perfect environment for it: no more updates, a lot of established groundwork, conveniently separated game files. Heck, you can completely change the world generation halfway through a playthrough as long as you move to a part of the universe that hadn't been generated yet

[+] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works -34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They need to stop working on that game and move on, can't believe I'm writing that.

[–] mossy_@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I have no clue how they're making money, I think I bought Terraria for four bucks eight years ago

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

There's always a new 9 year old, 11 year old etc. and always a new gamer of any age, who hasn't ever bought the game. Same with No Man's Sky and Minecraft.

You'd likely make way more if you separate games and DLC, but some companies seem to be fine sticking with just the one. You will still make money as you keep adding things to your evergreen game

[–] savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

And I bought it last year! Just because it's been out for a while doesn't mean people aren't still discovering it. Especially true for a 2d, stylized game like Terraria where maxing out the performance and graphics isn't essential to make it competitive with newer games.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago

? So many millions of people have bought the game

[–] colderr@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Merchandise is being sold and millions of people have bought the game and people are still buying it.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

IIRC there's rumors they're working on terraria 2 (or just a different new game entirely) due to the fact that they are hiring some employees that wouldn't be very useful for terraria 1. Also I believe there has been some twitter hints or something.