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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Funko did not request a takedown of the @itchio platform."

Man, I fucking hate corpo-speak like this.

Yes, you didn't personally make the request against itchio.... But you hired this company to enforce "brand protection" and that's what they did. So you did actually request the takedown, but you just did so by authorizing another party to make such requests on your behalf.

This is like a military General saying "hey I didn't commit any warcrimes, I just gave the orders to my men to commit warcrimes!"

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

Translation: "we didn't think this predatory behavior would affect our bottom line, and we deeply regret that it has."

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago

AI to determine people's livelihoods, huh?

By the way, who's the Brandshield CEO? Asking for a friend.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Corporate doing corporate shit. And then asking why people hate corporations and their CEOs.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People used to think so highly of CEOs, that they must be doing something right if they got to where they are. They must be smarter and have all the answers.

Now people are realizing CEOs are just rich scumbags.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

Yep, I'm sure most of them just bought their positions there to have power over society.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The fact that a legit website could be taken down just by a big corporation claim, without any further third party or gubernamental investigation. Is indeed frightening.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

Nintendo people: First time?

[–] oVerde@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If only we had a few more Luigi, these corpo-shit would think twice

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

They really like to show off how much power they have and how self defense is, indeed, justified.

They do and undo like there's no consequences whatsoever.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They always talk about how giving coverage leads to copycats. Typically that has meant me getting pissed at the over coverage of mass shootings, but now I'm sitting here waiting like... Okay? Any day now? Maybe not.

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 367 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I'm just going to post this comment to this thread as well, since this is newer. Classic shifting of blame and no one taking responsibility for scummy actions.

Fun fact: Funko's current CEO is the ex-president of Wizards of the Coast!

Why is this relevant? Well, under her leadership, WotC sent pinkerton agents to someone's home to threaten them because they got some Magic the Gathering cards early. She said things like Dungeons & Dragons players were under-monetised, pushing to make the Table Top game more like a microtransaction-filled video game, and helped with the OGL scandal.

The OGL, for anyone unfamiliar, was an Open Gaming License WotC had for years with D&D 3rd party creators. It allowed certain things to be created using D&D mechanics and lore by anyone that followed its guidelines and allowances. A couple years ago, WotC tried to change that so they would make more money off of people trying to create things for D&D - to profit off of indie creators passionate about the game. There was a huge backlash, and they eventually went back on this decision.

All this to say, you can see what kind of leader the current Funko CEO is, and what's happening with itch isn't surprising to me.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Fucking Pinkertons? That's a company who can use a visit from Luigi.

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[–] donuts@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago

That's quite telling, thanks for sharing.

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[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 239 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They requested a takedown before talking to the website owners? That's such a hostile move

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 196 points 1 week ago (13 children)

DMCA used to be used very very rarely because it carries(carried?) significant penalties for using it like a club. Now it's just being used like a club and it's quite obvious there's no penalty.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 236 points 1 week ago (20 children)

So Funko issued a non-apology blaming Brandshield.

Brandshield issued a non-apology blaming the registrar (Iwantmyname), and saying their AI tool definitely had nothing to do with it

And Iwantmyname hasn't even put out a statement.

Fucked all around, yet it seems nobody will be facing consequence for this except Itch.io who got their website nuked out of nowhere.

Though if I were Itch, I'd get a new registrar ASAP.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'd do a new registrar either way.

I've worked at hosting companies in the past. I don't know the timeline, but I've never encountered a situation where one folded this fast and just take down a client's site over a copyright claim.

And our clients, because of the nature of the internet being the internet, a small percentage were real scumbag folks, who while the content was objectionable and disgusting, it wasn't illegal. Which means it stayed up.

  • If there was something highly illegal like csam or dark web stuff and it came from a federal agency, we'd take down the site immediately.

  • If it was a strong letter from a legal entity that we trusted, we would pass that to the client and recommend remediation. No takedown unless there was a court order.

  • If it was a weak letter from a random legal entity, we lol'ed and wait for the threat of a lawsuit/court order. This was surprisingly extremely common.

So wtf is this registrar doing to shit on their clients so fast without a court order?

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[–] hono4kami@pawb.social 114 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

There are lots of finger-pointing here. Funko said the takedown was done by their partner, BrandShield. BrandShield said it was a URL-specific (or is it subdomain?) takedown, not the whole domain. The registrar, Iwantmyname, responded said takedown by taking down the WHOLE domain.

I think Funko shouldn't have trusted AI to do legal-related stuff. BrandShield is a stupid idea born from the AI-hype. It's stupid and shouldn't have existed. Iwantmyname is just as incompetent if not more--they haven't even released any public statement about this. Their customer support are also slow to response apparently.

Itch.io should move domain registrar. Funko should stop using BrandShield, it only damages their brand more.

Also what's up with Funko calling someone's mom lol. that's stupid


I also think that this is why AI won't replace our jobs. I've seen many instances where technologies replaces jobs, but this ain't it

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Also: brand shield says they only wanted the url gone but you don't get that when talking to the registrar. Registrar are all or nothing, so clearly they knew they were doing this

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this is a very important point. Why would you talk to a registrar of the domain to get a specific page offline. This doesn't make sense.

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[–] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 87 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I notice it doesn't include the word "sorry".

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[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why is it so hard just to say "this was not out intention, we recognize it was bad, and we are sorry."

There's a lot of words here for a non-apology.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

Fuck Funko and fuck their shitty CEO.

Not worth thinking about any further. I wish itch.io the best in their lawsuit.

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