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[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

When I was young I always wondered why the nhl games had a 16+ rating and Fifa had 3+. Figured both of them where ordinary sports.

Apparently fighting automatically shoots that nhl rating to the same level as GTA and balantro.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 25 points 17 hours ago

Might as well go all in on that new rating.

Balatro 1.5 Patch Notes.

  • All the Jokers now hang dong.

  • Big naturals Queens are worth double.

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 19 points 16 hours ago

NBA 2K literally had slot machine in it. System is corrupt.

[–] tino@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

let's just do like all parents buying the last Call of Duty to their 10-year-old and just don't give a fuck about PEGI.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, this is likely going to affect their sales to some degree.
As a parent, you may have age lock on your child's account, or search games by rating, or just not know what this game is when asked to buy it but judging by rating.

I don't know how significant of an impact that is, but it's unfair.

[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 13 hours ago

I think they've done them a favour in a way. If this was day one then it might hurt them but they're past the point of like 90% of their sales I bet, and now pegi looking like incompetent dinosaurs is just a free second wave of social media exposure

[–] mudmaniac@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I'm hopelessly addicted to gatcha. When I saw this I bought Balatro.

[–] Klnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Balatro is a hard drug worse than heroin. We need to protect our kids from the bottomless pit of roguelite games

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank God it's ten dollars.

I almost downloaded it.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If you've ever spent money on a movie theatre ticket, you value your time at $7-$20 dollars an hour. This... is thousands of hours of entertainment.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I'm not saying it's not worth ten dollars.

I just don't feel like spending ten dollars.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 7 points 23 hours ago

So, you're suggesting we make games per hour subscription? A good idea /s

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 385 points 1 day ago (23 children)

this is starting to be horseshit. Every windows computer has a version of fucking solitare on it , there are other card based games that don't get this treatment, and the lootboxes are actual gambling.

I thought at the start it was a type of beurocratical problem, but it's been too long.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 155 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Not entirely sure about the European PEGI, but the American ESRB is funded by the same companies that it regulates. It was created after the outcry about violent games and was the industry self-regulating to avoid the government getting more involved.

It is a lobby group for the industry, for better and in this case very much for worse.

I assume PEGI is little different.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (5 children)

PEGI and many other groups are private groups. They're not an authority of any form. They're not associated with government, public regulation, or public election. They're a group of people that create their own standards outside of the ISO or any actual regulation representing the public.

Some countries do have actual public systems, but many just have these private groups that know best.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 144 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He probably forgot to funnel millions of dollars to non-profits and businesses adjacent to PEGI decisionmakers and their family members. Rookie mistake.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hngh. Balatro already had a bunch of hassle on Switch eShop due to the PEGI ratings change.

Earlier, Nintendo somehow got a PEGI 12 rating for 51 Worldwide Games, which includes poker and blackjack. I wonder what they argued to avoid the 18 rating. "Sure, this compilation has poker and blackjack, but it's not like we made it fun." (It's adequate but compared to Balatro it's very much a non-frills experience.)

"sure our game has gambling elements, but we're Nintendo so shut the fuck up and give us a better rating because you're a private company in the business of giving ratings"

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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 110 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck PEGI, their ratings always sucked and weren't useful at all. Full blown swearing? 13+. One cigar through 500 hours of gameplay? Adults only. Never cared, never will.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Violence and gore? 13+. Some boobs? Adults only.

Killing good, love bad.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

If anybody knows about love it's rimjob_rainer.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are all game rating systems just complete and utter garbage? Dare you to find a good one.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Critiquing Doge on steam

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The ESRB isn’t awful, it’s not perfect of course, but I think it’s pretty dang good for what it is.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I mean the point of all rating systems in the US was fear of government regulation of content and having to fight that particular legal battle. It basically exists because moral busybodies were upset about Night Trap, Mortal Kombat and Doom.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes, this is true. And I think the industry managed to pull together a pretty decent one.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago (7 children)

They haven’t understood the game at all, I wonder if they even looked at it for more than two minutes

Run game > see playing cards and poker chips > close > PEGI 18

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago

They're not looking into blatant gambling in AAA titles, of course they won't take a closer look into an indie game. They're completely useless.

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[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 122 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Windows comes bundled with solitaire. How is it allowed in schools?

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 139 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I think the current microsoft version of solitaire has microtransactions and ads so is actually significantly worse

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 day ago (6 children)

They added micro transactions and ads to fucking solitaire? How have I not heard about this till now...

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[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

Gotta love how they saved the literal slot machine for a minute in to the video so it wouldn't be too obvious.

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[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish lawmakers had some balls on this subject. If there's gambling, they should have to register as a gambling company and comply with all the other restrictions on gambling advertisements in each jurisdiction.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

The problem here is that Baltaro does not have gambling. It just uses cards and chips as the basis for playing the game. Like Magic the Gathering or Inscryption.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Reminds me of that Australian law that was proposed to make anything with a relation to casino games Restricted 18 but merely mature for exploitative slot machine loot box mechanics.

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