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The salaries of Wikimedia executives are sparking an online debate about tech sector wages (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In times like this, especially when the original twitter post gets ratio'd to shit, it's important to evaluate where they're getting their numbers. I see they post a link to Rumble. I've never heard of this before, what is it?

Rumble
Rumble is a video platform where you can watch live and on-demand content from various categories, such as news, politics, gaming, sports, viral, power slap and finance. You can also discover new creators, join communities, and support your favorite channels on Rumble.

Um... I don't know what Power Slap is but ok, it's a youtube clone.

All Videos
ALEX JONES EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW! Elon Brought Him Back... What's Next?!
Pentagon PANIC, Trump "Happening", Obama FEAR push, Cyber PUSH, Focus, Pray!
"HE'S BACK!!" Musk RESTORES Alex Jones On X…
NEWSMAX2 LIVE on Rumble

Oh fuck me it's a right wing nutjob site. This post is fucking dogshit, trashing Wikipedia because it helps counter their propaganda. Fuck that noise.

Happily other people noticed this fucking nonsense:

So I have no idea what the Lunduke Journal is, so I spent a couple minutes googling it to find its run by a Qanon guy and they themselves say their "tech satire" so... Maybe not someone you should trust with facts.

He says elsewhere that it’s a “liberal cesspool” so you know where is problem really is.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

This lunduke recently posted the same shit against Mozilla, and sadly a lot of ppl here in lemmy are buying their crap and started bashing Mozilla for everything, at least in the posts I saw recently. I think ppl still believe that free software should be made from free labor.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also the CEO makes $400k if anyone just wanted that information. I had to listen to 60% of that dudes video to get to that point.

This doesn't seem insane to me. It's high for the average joe, but it's not competitive at all with other big tech CEO total comp.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Everyone is pointing out the comparison of Wikipedia's salaries to other tech companies, but they're missing the point that the person they're arguing with is NOT coming from a good faith position. They are hoping to feed on your distrust of the rich and powerful, in an attempt to convince you to work against your interests and the common good.

They hope their calls of "Wikipedia owners make too much money!" leads to "We should dismantle Wikipedia by boycotting donations!" and then to "We should sell Wikipedia to the last surviving Koch brother!"

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah he's disingenuous as hell, but also I don't see a ton of his Qanon-leaning audience as big donators to Wikipedia anyway.

They're the kind of people that back weird shit like Conservapedia.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Translation: business-types are salty about Wikipedia not toeing the line on the fiction that executive pay "needs" to be obscene in order to "attract talent."

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

They don't like it when real life counters their narrative, and this shows that corporations can pay reasonable salaries to their executives.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still think the "low" salary of Wikimedia is obscene.

There is no way even that figure is proportionate to what these people actually do day to day.

[–] Blackhole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

700k? For being in charge of one of the biggest websites in history?

That doesn't seem awful at all.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Those are very reasonable salaries to me. What's insane and should never exist is those who make $200 million a year. Like who needs this much money? What are you gonna do with all of it? Does it even matter how much money you have after a certain amount? I think at a certain point it becomes some kind of disorder or a mental illness to pursue more and more money. Give me $100k a year and I'll be a happy, very happy camper.

Edit: to be more clear, I'm talking about where I live currently. $100k where I live would put me in a very comfortable spot financially. My bad, everyone.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Mozilla's CEO is paid $7m for running the "charity".

[–] vinhill@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

She's CEO of Mozilla foundation (charity) but also Mozilla corporation (normal business).

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So? If that’s what she’s worth then you either hire her, or put up with second best. You may think CEOs are paid too much overall - I’m not disagreeing, but let’s not pretend people who work for charities should all take charity salaries. If you want to build a world class product, hire world class people - they’re not cheap.

I cannot fathom the indignation.

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the first one on the list was so expensive and so counterproductive, I can't imagine the rest...

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The absolute nosedive of firefox's share, its erratic and pointless development, the waste of money... in fact there are many valid criticisms against mozilla and its mismanagement, take your pick.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In a world set against you, even doing the right thing might not lead to success.

They are deeply dependent on Google; they’ve been trying to find revenue without Google. They’ve largely failed, but that doesn’t mean the strategy is wrong.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[–] aniki@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the reminder! Just donated!