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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 58 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 59 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

If you read the bill, heavily sponsored by the MPA, part of it is about forcing ISPs (and presumably US based VPNs) to block the DNS/URLs of "foreign criminal" sites.

It's laying the groundwork for a Great American Firewall.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

So many long games are being played now, it's like everything is laying groundwork for something else. Would be nice for laws to just do what they do.

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SilentKnightOwl@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Wouldn't be the first wall he put up in the name of freedom

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

Oh no!

Anyway.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 42 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You can't legislate piracy away...

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 37 points 13 hours ago

But they can make up excuses for their arsenal for whenever they want to ban a site they don't like from common eyes.

"It was banned because it was pornography"

"It was banned because it was displaying pirated content"

"It was banned because it harmed the public good"

They want control over what the common people can see, hear, say, and think.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 61 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The people who create these services will always be more clever and quick to implement workarounds than politicians. It's a futile battle.

Want to avoid piracy? Make getting things easier and more convenient.

Back when Netflix was £5-10 depending on tier, had a load of content, and an account could be shared between a few trusted people, I practically gave up pirating. Now it's £18 per month for 4K (and due to rise), and doesn't have those other positives going for it, I've abandoned it in favour of Radarr+Sonarr+Plex, and am having a better experience.

For video games, I predominantly buy from Steam, because it's a good service, and so far I have not seen any evidence that Valve are going to fuck me over. They've made gaming and all the things ancillary to it a lot more convenient. So I happily pay. If they embrace enshittification, guess what I'll do?

The only games I do pirate are Nintendo/Sega games that haven't been sold in decades. Why? Because there's no feasible other way to buy them and keep them!

I don't pirate music because Spotify. For all the issues I have with it (and boy do I have a few), it still has almost every song I search for, is fairly priced, and hasn't clamped down on account sharing in the same way Netflix/Disney/etc have. I'm part of a family where we split the cost. All the music I could possibly want for £2.20 per month? Fine by me! If that goes away, I go away, yarr harr.

[–] Eagle0110@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention Valve spearheaded major development for making Linux gaming like 200% better than it used to be, with development of Proton and everything, and giving all those work back to the entire gaming community as open source products entirely for free, bring in momentum for an entire industry.

That's a company you support.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

I'm so fucking glad Valve isn't beholden to shareholders.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 30 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They already banned pornhub and pornographers. Fascists are going to fash.

MPA logo corrected

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'm curious how effective those bans have been. Is free porn difficult to access in states that have added verification laws or has it only affected the larger players that get attention while the ones that most people don't usually think immediately of fly under the radar?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 6 hours ago

You hit the nail on the head, it's just the biggest sites

[–] DanVctr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

Someone I know told me their usual site is no verification, but sometimes finding content through Google on the big sites triggers an ID verification.

[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 106 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (11 children)

We only pirate TV because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again...

I used to be perfectly happy with Netflix and Google music + YouTube Red, but corporations were too greedy

I now use a mix of free Kodi TV, patched YouTube apps, rip music off tidal, and self host media on a lifetime premium Plex server.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 29 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 22 points 18 hours ago

100% true, haven't pirated a single game since I started using Steam and actually having a paycheck since about 10 years ago

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

If you actually had a catch all service

I believe this used to be called cable tv.

But before you reply, yeah, I know cable didn't get everything. And you had to pay extra for Disney, HBO, etc. And on top of the exorbitant price there were always tons of commercials. That's all true.

But I do remember a time right around 2005, when everyone was saying "if only there were a-la-carte options, for people who only want sports, or only want movies". My point being, there's no winning and the grass is always greener somewhere.

And for what it's worth, I basically agree with you. I use Plex, I have a few friends who also run Plex servers and we all share content. That's the best catch all I've ever found.

[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

The problem with cable was it was not on demand and contained ads.

I would never, ever pay for cable even in today's world if it was $10 a month because of the overwhelming amount of ads.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 31 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They don’t care. They don’t want to innovate, they want to force you to pay them for nothing in return.

[–] ookiiBoy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This falls under enshitification, no?

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 11 points 17 hours ago

Why just pay one service a small fee for ad free streaming, when you can pay a lot of services a large fee for ad supported streaming?

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This is dumb considering that these types of streaming sites are how I actually discover anime and become a fan enough that i want to purchase merch. I pay for Crunchy Roll, but sometimes I want to check out stuff from other services. If I had to rely sheerly on legal services I wouldn't watch or discover half of what I did.

Legal services are also pretty inferior. I wanted to watch A certain Scientific Railgun.. Season 1 was dubbed, but season 2 on the service wasn't... I literally had to track it down on some streaming site to get access to what I'm paying for.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 185 points 1 day ago (12 children)

It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

Shocking, I know.

The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

I remember as kids we shared music by Bluetooth or copying files on a memory stick. You are not stopping that.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

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[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 219 points 1 day ago

"Effectively kill piracy" - Sure guys, this time it'll work.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 21 hours ago

This is why you run servers outside of five eye countries

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 95 points 1 day ago

Yeah because pirates are notorious for giving up immediately when you make their jobs a little harder.

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago

I am quite fond of Nyaa :3

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago

This is about foreign websites

It’s going after ISPs, Google, Cloudflare that allow access to them

Also it’s great to see the Democrats prioritizing this atm

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