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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 66 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

macOS is UNIX, certified UNIX actually.

But I mean, if someone had the merest impression of macOS and was very familiar with Linux and never bothered to look any further then I'd understand. Maybe they only played around with macOS a little and saw the terminal app had bash and most all the familiar tools as on Linux. It's not hard to see why they might've thought it's Linux based.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 11 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Isnt zsh the default macos shell?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It has been since 2019 but before that it was bash.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

They switched to bash in 2003 with Mac OS X 10.3; before that it was tcsh.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 10 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

It is now, but it was bash before.

But in any case once you start doing anything remotely advanced you’ll find the individual command line utilities are wildly different between macOS and Linux. They seem (are?) much closer to FreeBSD than GNU utilities.

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 107 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (24 children)
[–] matmarspace@programming.dev 49 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I love the idea of licensing comments XD

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 34 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You're probably the only one, but thank you for saying that. 🙂

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

Does the lack of licensing in this comment mean it's okay to steal?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago

Nope, the opposite: in the absence of an explicit license, the default is "all rights reserved."

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[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You are not new to lemmy, it says you registered a year ago, but is this the first time you meet a comment with license info? You are one of today's lucky 10000.

I've seen this on multiple users, usually it's some anti ai license. Like the laws stopped facebook from torrenting copyrighted books, an anti ai license will stop the next ai startup scraping the fediverse.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They probably are thinking of the FreeBSD stuff in macOS.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I mean it's kind of like the "humans evolved from monkeys" or whatever primate you want to substitute for monkey. No, they branched off from a common ancestor though.

I mean lots of people get mixed up between BSD, Linux, UNIX, and all the variations over the years. Is MacOS a version of Linux? No. Is a human a type of ape? No. Are MacOS and Linux way, way closer than either are to Windows, hell yes. Just like people are way closer to being monkeys than swallows. There's a lot of mixed breeding in both examples and a lot of total incompatibilities as well.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 34 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

12% of humans believe we aren’t apes

Edit: hopeful the number is actually this low

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

12% of humans believe we aren’t apes

All humans are apes, those people more so than most.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pft, everyone knows macOS is just a fancy DE on top of Hannah Montana Linux

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

12% of people believed JFK was going to be resurrected a year ago or some dumb shit. The point is, more than 1/4 of the population are not smart.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well it depends where you sit on the bell curve, 1/8 of the population thinks the other 1/8 are fucking stupid, whilst been completely oblivious to the fact that they are in fact also fucking stupid

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 14 points 15 hours ago

Most people think UNIX and Linux are the same thing so this makes sense. Obviously to us they aren’t but for most people it really doesn’t matter. I’m sure they’ll still sleep at night.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 15 hours ago

I get that it specifies tech workers, but still my first reaction was that 12% is pretty low. You can find a much higher percentage of people who are confidently wrong about way more important things.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not that surprised, a lot of people around me dot have a clear picture of what is the relationship between MacOS, Linux and Unix is. So I suppose some of them would guess that Linux is a modern fork of Unix and MacOS based on Unix.

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sillies! It's based on GNU!

[–] matmarspace@programming.dev 11 points 15 hours ago

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as GNU, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. GNU is not an operating system unto itself, but rather a gathering of the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components that together with a Linux kernel comprise a full OS as defined by POSIX.

(Finally it's the other way around 😆)

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I would be more surprised if 12% of "tech workers" know what Linux is at all.

Fwiw: I work in a call center as basically a more knowledgeable tech for our client facing team to rely on for help and only about 1% of them have any familiarity with Linux in the slightest.

I wonder about the framing of this question, like another comment mentioned, it's kinda like evolution where MacOS and Linux have a common ancestor, I could see the wording throwing people off.

"Is MacOS based on linux" seems to be the wording used?

I'd bet less would fall for, "Is MacOS a Linux distribution?"

Edit: Ha some people in the comments had similar thoughts, in addition to Linux and Unix being nearly synonymous to all but those who are very into that kind of thing.

Edit again, if anyone else is curious https://youtu.be/jowCUo_UGts

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