this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2023
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[–] Kra@mtgzone.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah because Palestine is the aggressor here and to fully blame. Slava ukraini and fuck Palestine.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised more hexbears haven't jumped on this

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hurr durr, now that a palestinian terrorist group is attacking is the best moment to be vocal about palestinian freedom

And you people wonder why you get downvoted?

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Legitimatlly curious if 6 months has changed your perspective?

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're telling on yourself. You genuinely don't give a shit about the Palestinian struggle. You just want them to sit down and take their genocide.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Perhaps they could sit down when it comes to killing innocent civvies and stick to military targets. I have always been outspoken in Palestine’s favor but lines were crossed and nobody should support it.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Try attacking military bases and armored vehicles with fireworks.

Read about war history. Civilian strikes are usually countered with opposite civilian strikes.

[–] rustycheesi3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

i am not supporting it, but i have hard times defending israel either, both sides are an absolute shit show and have their reasons, but in my eyes, the palestines have a stronger claim to the land. then again, this whole war is based on religions, where i, as an atheist, have nothing to say at all, because without religions, there wouldnt be a claimable holy city and no war whos the truthful owner of it, it would just be another land.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Yep, mask right off.

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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ppl who have no idea how palestinian conflict started half a century ago commenting like 'completely different cases!'

Same ppl fifty years later and war continues in Ukraine: 'ok, now I get it'

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[–] Titan@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Biden is 100% gonna support "Israel's right to defend itself", while they've been awfully quiet when Palestani people are getting murdered and their infrastructure decimated 🫣🤫

Fucking fascists

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine is simply more important to the countries bordering russia, the EU and it's allies

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ukraine is a sovereign nation that got attacked by another country.

Palestine just carried out a horrible attack on Israel. Plus the history of Israel and Palestine is totally different. It's just apples and oranges. I'm not claiming in any way Israel is right here, but Hamas is definitely scum of the Earth.

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[–] surge_1@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Dumb meme, the 2 situations are not similar.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

They're not identical but there are many similarities.

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[–] wabafee@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Both suck to be fair but Israel for me suck less. My reasoning mostly stem on their Ideology. Israel leans more to the US. Israel though recently leaning more to the extreme right, is still liberal compared to the rest of the nations in middle east. Woman has more freedom under Israel it seems. LGBT is more supported in Israel. For Hamas on the other hand has the same vibe for me with Taliban it doesn't help that it is supported by Iran and Russia. As for Ukraine I support them since they lean more to the West (EU and the US) and they are more democratic than Russia. That's my thought anyway.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

"I support the fascistsdoing a genocide because they're aligned with us and do our bidding" is the kind of honesty we're looking for from liberals on foreign policy.

Genuinely, thank you for your honesty. Can you please tell the rest of the libs to communicate like this and we wouldn't be as mean to them.

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[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Because the TV tells them who to support

[–] essellburns@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's make a list of all the ways Ukraine is different to Palestine.

We'll be here a while.

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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've seen so many stupid takes today, and this is one of them. The conflicts aren't similar!

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO everyone should leave everyone else the fuck alone and stop trying to be modern empires, but come on man, these are VERY different situations.

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

(Edit: what I'm about to say is a good bit wrong, but I'm not going to try and hide my mistakes. This article has a more complete history: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/why-israel-and-palestine-conflict-war-history-b2426050.html)

I don't support the violence at all, but this isn't a (direct) result of imperialism.

After WW2, the Allies were like, "what do we do with all these Jews? We don't want them in our countries." Then they thought, "why not Jerusalem?" But a bunch of Arabs were living there, but the Allies really didn't want more Jews, so they just dumped them all in modern Israel, told the Arabs this is Jews' land now, and recognized Israel as a state. Palestine has a right to be pissed. So this isn't so much an imperialism problem as much as a racism problem.

But still, Hamas are evil fuckers that take shit too far. Israel definitely is not the good guy and is not helping the situation at all, but this kind of escalation just makes shit worse for everyone.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

"why not Jerusalem?"

That wasn't the allies, zionism predates the holocaust by decades, it's the literal promised land from their stupid fucking religion.

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