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screenshot, probably from Ex-Twitter but I saw it on NOSTR, showing a guy saying that training a zoomer to use a PC at work is as difficult as training a boomer, with a reply indicating that there is only one generation that can rotate a PDF and that knowledge dies with us

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[–] maporita@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

My favorite:

"Where did you save the file?"

"I saved it in Excel"

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Gen Z here, in college.

Some of these people are braindead when it comes to tech.

Like, I get if you're not used to technology because you're poor/had a lack of access to it, as many people might not have a home computer. So there were kids who were absolutely hopeless when it came to using windows at my tech school because they were broke, and the school only gives out Chromebooks (cause they're shitty and cheap).

But outside of not knowing a UI and different file formats, you should absolutely know how to use anything on the web, unless you literally lived in an area with absolutely no internet and electricity.

Some people at my college STILL don't know how to share Google documents correctly, and it's the most insane and frustrating thing to me. Literally any device with an Internet connection can use it. Windows, apple, Chromebook, Linux, you name it. HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO WORK GOOGLE DRIVE?!?!?!

Like many comments have said, devs have dumbed down a lot of shit in the name of protecting users, and people expect stuff to just work without any issues/effort, which I get, but damn, you've never simply done a 5 mins search on Google or YouTube for a quick fix?

My hand-me-down phone journey started with a Samsung G Note 4 as a kid, then a old iPhone (don't remember which), moved to a Moto G Play 7 (I adore that thing today), moved to iPhone X, and now I'm at a Pixel 8a cause I put GrapheneOS on it. My mom got me it as a grad gift cause I hated my iPhone so much for all the shit I couldn't do while I was on it. I've always just liked Android and Windows more for the freedom to fuck up (which I never did), instead of Apple's shitty walled garden. And now I'm on Fedora, because I know I don't have to subject myself to a shit user experience on Windows just for simplicity.

But other people my gen who aren't willing to be adventurous for a bit and even try will never do that. Hell, you get shamed in school for not loving the Apple overlords and wanting Apple deciding everything in your life (green bubble shaming is real, I hated middle and early high school...). We want quick and easy, and we got it, but at what cost?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Some people at my college STILL don't know how to share Google documents correctl

They emulate a "files" menu (like any native office software has), where you can download/export it to a standardized format. Right?

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[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

Google drive is absolutely horrible to use for any real purpose. Organizing things is awful, search sucks, sharing permissions are dumb in terms of their specific behaviors. Its not particularly hard to use for basic things where you've got like 10 files in there, but it's a terrible example of usable software. Like... SharePoint is better, and I didn't think it was possible to be worse than SharePoint.

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[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm not a kid (see my other replies in this thread lol), but I've never had to use PDFs for much at all. The closest I've ever been to editing one is clicking a box to draw a signature or check a checkbox.

So I've gotta ask. Why would one need to rotate a PDF? They would be made on a computer, and naturally default to the correct orientation, no? I can't imagine why one would ever be sideways.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, and Alpha are even worst, most of them never touched a real keyboard, only use 2 thumbs on a phone. Don't tell them about windows (or/mac/linux) or what is a UI or how to use a mouse and navigate in a OS, they don't get double click or right click, resize a window, minimize a window (OMG THE WINDOW IS GONE!!!!) it's impressive.

I have seen a lot of late Z/early Alpha who cannot make some special characters on a keyboard like " or $ or even worst using AltCar. Using Word to write a letter, using keyboard shortcuts, etc. they are completely clueless with computers.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lot of boomer-like fist shaking in these comments.

Newer generations are going to find different things to excel at, and they'll inevitably give up on some of the old ways.

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[–] AHorseWithNoNeigh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Training some younger people at work: "click the cog in the corner to pull up the settings". "What's a 'cog'?" Some things people miss out on life when you've never seen a Jetsons episode.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've never seen an icon of a single cog. Multiple cogs on a hub forming a gear, sure, but never just a cog.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh? The single cog is the standard for settings menus. Just looking at three random apps on my phone, they all had single cog icons.

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[–] mub@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just described a cog as a circle with teeth and my son thought it was funny to call the sticky out bits as teeth.

I'm just hoping he doesn't ask about crenellations next.

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[–] TVA@thebrainbin.org 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In my experience, Zoomers largely lack a lot of computer skills (specifically in troubleshooting), but, for me the huge difference between them and the older folks has been that the older folks will say things like "I'm just not a computer person ::laugh::" and refuse to be shown how to do anything whereas the Zoomer just doesn't know, yet, but are more than willing to learn.

ETA: NOTE: that's just the generalized trend ... some of the most knowledgeable technical people I've met are Boomers and some of the best computer techs I've worked with have been Zoomers.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 0 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Oh god this was my previous colleague. "Hey MBech, mind showing me how I do this thing in Excel you've shown me 100 times?" Sure thing, but at least try to remember. He even told me he forgets it instantly because he just doesn't give a shit about computer stuff. Then you probably shouldn't have a job that has you working on a computer 90% of the time.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

I 100% agree with the caveat of SAP. I'm not letting those cunts having a single microgram of my brain space. I'm asking accounting for help everytime

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[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I started as a graphic designer back in November with absolutely zero experience. It's crazy being whown how to do stuff in Adobe suite by a 68 year old man

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ha. My young coworker said "wow you really know this software in depth, how long have you used it?" me: meh 26 years. He was like "dude that is longer than I have been alive"

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I work on a help desk. We hired multiple Zoomers and they literally don't understand how computers work. They don't know what the registry is. Or what POST means. Or how to properly back up a user's data without using automated software.

They're fucking dumb. Nice. But dumb.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would someone on a help desk be expected to know what POST is? A software engineer, sure, but helpdesk? If it's needed knowledge…that's what training is for. Businesses' expectation that people will come into the job already knowing exactly how you do things and never require on-the-job training is absurd.

[–] jonc211@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Guessing they’re talking about Power-On Self Test rather than the HTTP verb. I’m assuming you were thinking of the latter given you mentioned a software engineer.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Half of software engineers don't know what a POST is either

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