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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 96 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (22 children)

There's one more angle to this - apart from the raise in vigilante violence and messing up with police operations which both are very valid.

Just as we stopped getting TV feeds constantly equating pedophiles to child molesters, those guys stepped in to fill the void.

Pedophiles are not inherently child molesters. This kind of equation is not only wrong, it also adds to promoting dangerous behaviors among them.

Plenty of pedophiles will never abuse a single child, knowing full well it is dangerous and harmful for minors to be engaged in such relationships. However, the more we equate pedophiles to predators, the more people, especially in the emotionally vulnerable groups like teen pedophiles, will actually accept themselves in this role. Among those who stands against this anyway, plenty will become suicidal, not seeing an option to live a non-offending life.

Current methods of therapy aimed at reducing child abuse rates go very strongly on this - pedophiles should face message of them not being inherently dangerous, not the message of them being an immediate and imminent danger. Not only this is scientifically correct, it is actually useful in making these people safer for others.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's an interesting and reasonable take.
I'm actually surprised you are not down voted to oblivion!

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 27 points 6 days ago

Guess this is what happens when you meet real people online who are not artificially enraged - a productive conversation!

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What this ultimately amounts to is the worst actors using a blanket justification to carry out revenge fantasies against whatever marginalized group they're fixated on.

If you happen to be part of any of these marginalized groups, now would be the time to get armed and get dangerous. It would be great if we lived in a functioning society where this wasn't necessary, but the failure of so many of our institutions is slowly rewinding our social fabric back to wild west times.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 75 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Oh. They're just gonna call people pedo and attack them even though they're not. It's extremely obvious.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago

probably under the guise of attacking lgbtq+ group.

[–] FermionWrangler@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago

They're going to attack LGBT people and say they're pedos for being LGBT.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Or very likely make mistakes. Vigilantes is nice in comic books and movies, in real life it turns terrible very quickly.

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[–] StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I monitor far-right groups pretty intensively and a good chunk of Paedophile Hunters are key organisers of said groups.

Its also not uncommon for far-right groups to be family operations where the adults will groom their teenage children into organizing and encourage their children to date other, often older, fascist organisers.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

Look at how much conspiracy content especially after 2016 focused on pedophilia. A lot of it. That carried over into this

[–] FermionWrangler@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Unsurprising as most of the "pedophile hunters" are extremist by nature, so it makes sense why they would also subscribe to extremist ideologies like Nazism and queerphobia.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nazis: If you support LGBT you're a pedophile. And we're already coming for you.

People, for some fucking reason: Pedophiles get fucked, do what you want to them, erase them at any cost!!

"Please hold this paper target in front of your face while I shoot at it."

"Sounds dangerous but I see you are aiming at the paper so I should be fine."

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[–] FermionWrangler@lemm.ee 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I always knew there was something wrong with that these people were doing but couldn't exactly put my finger on it and never talked about it because people would've yelled at me and used false dillema arguments like many people who criticized them back them recieved "You support pedophiles you removed"

[–] Ghamorra@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

One of these groups that operate out of the Pacific North West employs psychologists to create profiles on people the contact online. They target non-sex related forums like grief or mental health related support groups online. They’ll spend as much time as needed to hook these men and make them dependent on their carefully crafted online personas and even drive away their outside support groups to isolate them.

Regardless of your opinion of these individuals, going out of your way to exploit a vulnerable person and turn them into something their not is incredibly fucked up.

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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 26 points 6 days ago

There's one in the white house. Why don't they seem to care about that one?

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I had a friend who was visiting Florida, and this vigilante group from some church setup a Grindr account to catch gay men. They made a profile of a guy in his 20s, had convos and planned to meet, then asked him to talk on some other platform, where his profile said he was underage. Keep in mind, this is just a fictional person. And the Florida court loves to toss LGBT in jail, so beware out there.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Solution bait the baiters

Practical solution, abandon all social interactions with strangers

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[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Vigilantism is on the rise regardless, Either because the police are incompetent / carefree about the complaints. or because individuals are overzealous, dont undrestand or agree with the law, and decide to cosplay as the punisher.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Oh I get it. So this stuff gets pushed on left wing spaces. Then the left wing adopts this ethos where they say "pedo hunters aren't good" then the right goes "oh you're all pedophiles" and then the divide is bigger

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's not it. The right will lie about anything. If we change our beliefs to prevent the right from lying about us we would never have to stop changing our beliefs.

This is more about right wing militias hunting lqtb+ people under the guise of pedophilia.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Poorly regulated pedo hunters that can end up ruining genuine law enforcement efforts at catching pedos aren't good.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

They should be stalking the Repuglicans in Washington. Make a ton of bounty I bet

So Conservative Pedo apologists are going to be using this to hunt Lgbtq people and the current culture war of "this is child indoctrination" despite everyone knowing that's not how this works is open season pass.

Really makes me regret not arming myself two years ago

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