I tried playing Harvest Moon on the SNES today and having played Stardew Valley for hours, I thought I'd try and see how tolerable the original Harvest Moon was in comparison. I know and understand it is unfair because there's a 20 year gap between Harvest Moon and Stardew Valley, while also discrediting Harvest Moon's later entries since there's more than one.

Harvest Moon to me is a bit hard to revisit. Having to get used to only carrying two tools at the same time, your farm doesn't seem as big, you don't have a way to know that you're tired as readily, you just have to watch for the signs and the village you visit doesn't seem as characteristic. It's a basic farming sim, it has to start somewhere.

But Stardew Valley does so many things that it is easier to revisit.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Mount and Blade. Warband is just the better version all around. It works in reverse too cause Warband is better than Bannerlord.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would love to experience X-COM UFO Defense, but the only X-COMs I've played to any extent are the two "modern" Firaxis games. Going back to the originals is a real effort, especially without having the manual to hand.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

If the originals are too difficult to sink your teeth it, you can start with Xenonauts.

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

OG XCOM has a really rough learning curve for sure. It is easy to understand the fundamentals of but it takes a lot longer to get it well enough to really enjoy. Once you do learn it I feel like it is different enough from new XCOM that you can enjoy both. I love new and old xcoms a ton.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Old XCOM also likes to bend you over and fuck you over a lot. And that's the way we liked it!

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes. Land Skyranger, open door, sectoid throws grenade into Skyranger. Evac with one survivor. Good times.

[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Goldeneye. Revolutionized the FPS genre at the time. Nigh unplayable now. Tried recently using both NSO and on an original N64, it just hasn't aged well when compared to something modern.

[–] oddspinnaker@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is pretty obscure, but the Game Boy Advance remake of Mario Bros. (Not Super Mario Bros.) is more fun than the original.

You can run, for one thing, and the controls are more responsive in general.

It’s one of the games on Super Mario Advance, and one of the main reasons I originally wanted a GBA when it came out! I had the original Mario Bros. for the NES and thought it would be fun to have a portable version. I was right.

They did a great job updating the game!

[–] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, Diablo 2. It's a classic, it set the standard for the entire genre and it was a brilliant game. Playing it recently, it feels quite shallow compared to modern ARPGs and lacks a ton of quality-of-life features. Games like Grim Dawn, PoE, Torchlight 2 are way better.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I was going to comment harvest moon after reading the title!

A lot of the older games for me. They're just a lot harder. Like maybe they expect you to be willing to replay an area or a level over and over, getting a little farther each time until you beat it and I just don't have the stamina for that anymore, or the time.

Newer games baby you, they increase the difficultly perfectly along side your ability growth. They might even make a level easier if you've failed twice. Older games don't care if you're having fun as much. There was less competition (fewer game choices) and more of a "gamers like this. If you don't like it, you're not a gamer" attitude, and now games want to attract everyone.

I have become such a baby about games. I want to have fun the whole time! I can't handle failing over and over. I'd rather just read a book.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same, this is how I got frustrated by Hades. I no longer have endless time to sink into a game to get good.

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The "story" of Hades is that the guy you control gets better over time and finally escapes. How else can you convey it? With text (cardinal sin)?

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think anyone is saying that the story of Hades isn't portrayed well with the rougelike style, but it's totally ok to say "I don't have time to play a game that's designed such that you fail dozens of times before you win"

[–] XM34@feddit.org -1 points 3 weeks ago

Dark Souls 1. Especially on PC it's almost unplayable due to bad porting and DS3 and Elden Ring have refined the formula so much, it's insane. The remaster is ok though, so I don't know if that counts.

[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do the original version of Doom and Doom 2 count? The relatively recent, re-released duology is objectively superior. Also, OpenRCT2 makes classic RCT and RCT2 feel incomplete at best, and outright horrible to play at worst.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

re-released duology is objectively superior

do you mean the "doom 1 + doom 2" on steam? because if so, oh boy are you gonna love gzdoom
https://zdoom.org/downloads

[–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com -2 points 3 weeks ago

I've known of gzdoom for ages but haven't gotten around to trying it. I just really like how that duology Steam release because it's just "pick up and go" with modern resolutions, tweaks and that incredible soundtrack remake.