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The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reminder to watch Minority Report again... I don't even remember whether that movie was any good or not

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Can't believe that movie is looking to become a reality in my lifetime.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

It’s great!

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 109 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?

Call it Minority Report

[–] aCosmicWave@lemm.ee 59 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because they will inevitably target minorities?

[–] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago
[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because of the early 2000's movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not superstitious, but I'm starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.

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[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

570 recorded homicides between March 2023 and 2024.

Data on "hundreds of thousands" of people can't provide the distinguishing markers to even have a stab at this.

It can reliably predict when people are black, though.

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It can predict blackness with up to 63% accuracy!

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

a stab

I see what you did there 😄

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 80 points 1 week ago

And it will say people of lower economic classes and foreign origin are the biggest risk. Will action be taken to help these people? Nah. This is just going to be a technological excuse for some good ol' repression.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Precrime will have had been here?

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Number of subreddits banned from?....site wide, that's a lot of subreddits lol.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Oh boy! ...Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!

So... What happens when it is wrong?

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.

[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Touché, indeed.

[–] jasoman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Great—let’s test it on politicians and law enforcement first.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 week ago

It's the minority report wtf

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Didn't they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?

E: yeah, fuck this shit.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting "predictions" be racist

[–] TerHu@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.

I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Be ready to go to jail for shit you never did, and then be forced to watch the thing you never did for your entire sentence. What do you think you'll do when you are released?

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're assuming they'll ever release you.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry; we predicted that, if we were to release you now, you'll murder someone."

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's actually the idea. It's not general precrime, it's a decision support tool for predicting recidivism when deciding parole cases.

That doesn't mean it's not on decidedly shonky ground statistically speaking.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

No silly, not after they input race.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

Why are they rebooting "Minority Report?" The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don't need a new one.

[–] suite403@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Thought crimes. Neat.

[–] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Getting closer to PSYCHO-PASS

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So what's the plan after that? You can't arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.

The UK isn't the US, the government can't just do whatever it wants and get away with it.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won't. This is just the start. They're slowly warming you all up to it until it's going to be too late. There's no such thing as "This can't happen here!". It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don't organise and stop it.

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[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully "nah mate, you haven't done a thing. I'm just here to watch. For now. Carry on."

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (7 children)
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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think I saw a Tom Hanks movie about this

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

WIIILLLLSSSSOOOONNNN!!!!!

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Hasn't this been tried before? and failed

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