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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

China will be the best country in the world the same day fusion reactors will be available. Always in ten years. No matter when you read this.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I thought it was the Chinese AI we had to worry about. But if you hook the Chinese AI to the Chinese Nuclear Reactors... game over man. Game over.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Depends on how you define "best," I suppose. I'd say we are already there.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

This was a couple of years ago but I think the numbers are still the same: sending a shipping container from Hong Kong to Newark cost about $3000 while sending the same container in the opposite direction cost about $500. This is because we badly want the shit China makes while they don't want anything we make (the same situation that led Great Britain to force China to accept opium at gunpoint almost two hundred years ago). Sending a container to China is so cheap that for a stretch we were actually filling them with our garbage because it was less expensive to dispose of it there.

Anyone who think this represents economic weakness on China's part is batshit crazy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

This is because we badly want the shit China makes while they don’t want anything we make

That's not entirely true. China produces a lot of low-margin industrial goods that Americans then assemble into finished products. Americans produce an assortment of agricultural and mineral goods that are in high demand in China (oilseeds and grains, particularly soybeans, followed by mineral fuels and oil). We also produce a number of high-margin technology components (include aircraft and parts, electrical machinery and TV parts, and nuclear reactor parts and mechanical appliances) that are expensive but comparatively smaller by volume than the products China sends our way.

Think of it this way. If China sends us a pound of feathers and we send them a pound of iron, even if they're the same price one of them is going to fill up a shipping container a lot faster than the other. The end result is a net positive number of shipping containers coming into the US.

Anyone who think this represents economic weakness on China’s part is batshit crazy.

It's a generally symbiotic relationship and one that any neoliberal economist would laud. We've stratified our industrial economies such that we're highly specialized in respective fields. It isn't weakness on either side's part any more than the heart is stronger/weaker than the lungs because one beats faster than the other breaths.

[–] Catchmeifyoucan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Oh man, nice.

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Not entirely true, they love our soy beans and alfalfa.... But Chinese junk and cattle feed are both horrible for this world. In fact, you can pack a freighter full of alfalfa and hardly add to its weight.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Containers as cheap home starting points in US is also a function of this dynamic. No need to ship empty ones back to Asia.

[–] barnacul@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

The problem isn't the lack of ability to build new houses, it's the lack of land that's in a liveable area, zoned for new development and not already taken. The land doesn't exist.

[–] shaman1093@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Run the gauntlet yeye

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

“Imminent collapse” is a fairly common theme among modern economies

[–] fmtx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Eww Reinhart and Rogoff, all my homies hate Reinhart and Rogoff.

TL:DR Reinhart and Rogoff infamously cherry picked their data and had coding errors to support austerity measures that fucked over much of the world, subsequent meta analyses found that austerity doesn't work.

Growth in a Time of Debt - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_in_a_Time_of_Debt

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago

a common theme song among capitalist economies

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

An evil authoritarian regime that is committing human rights abuses and does not follow democratic norms ..... but we'll do billions of dollars worth of trade with them and base a lot of our industries around trading with them. But they're still evil.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you talking about China or the US?

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah that tracks, same with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Being aware of America's abuses of power is good. Being contrarian and acting like everything they've ever said about China is a lie is bad.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

most of what they say about it is a lie though.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

How do you know?

[–] Commiunism@beehaw.org 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Love how the exact same thing is now being said about the US lmao (the collapse part at least), I LOVE the media machine

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago

hahahaha this one is hilarious

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