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[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 153 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You keep raising the prices and I keep not buying.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They are rising from rock bottom, I just bought a 4tb gen 3 nvme for $230 Cad

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's like gas prices early in the pandemic, but not quite as bad.

They grossly overproduced, sat on a stockpile that couldn't sell which costs them a ton and had to sell them for nothing. There's nowhere for the price to go but up.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Keep them there.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

How fast is it? A lot of m.2's are cheap because they're slow.

[–] Rootiest@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I bought a WD Black 4TB gen4 nvme for just under $200 over the holidays.

The listing says up to 7,300MB/s. I only have a gen3 SSD slot so I can't verify that but it saturates the gen3 capabilities.

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[–] Turun@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Seriously, a lot of weirdly negative comments here.

Yeah, it's not great that prices go up, but a few months ago was the lowest price for memory and storage we have ever seen in all of history. 40€/TB at the low end for SSDs. That's absolutely insane. It was entirely expected for prices to rise a bit again.

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[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 114 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And then in 5 years they'll all settle for a few million dollars in a class action for price fixing. Rinse, repeat.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course, the customer payout will eventually amount to $5/affected customer, but only those who replied to their rather invasive survey, paid out over 3 payments over the coming year.

[–] NaiveBayesian@programming.dev 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't forget it's usually just US citizens who even get the chance to jump onto such class action suits. The rest of the world don't even get their $5.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just the cost of doing business. Just ask all the hedgefunds that break the rules time and time again and simply pay a small fee to FINRA (if at all)

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (34 children)

What a surprise, capitalists can’t keep making more money quarter after quarter so instead they just rack up the prices for no reason other than the c-suite wants more bonus money.

Fucking PATHETIC and reprehensible

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 78 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nobody is buying so let's increase the price. Makes a lot of sense. Good job guys.

[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If people generally atent buying, there’s still People that need to buy (businesses, oems, etc)

They’re just doing the ol covid ratchet. Tightening the thumbscrews on the people who can’t opt out.

Doesn’t affect their bottom line much if nobody’s choosing to buy.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup, Meta is buying $9 Billion of GPUs but no SSDs. Nope!

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

They store the fake news in GDDR6X.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

They drastically increased production after covid, and then with inflation and the economy slowing down, demand crashed, meaning they had a fuckton of NAND and nobody to sell it to. They needed to get rid of it so they sold it all at a steep discount below the break even mark, losing billions of dollars in the process (I don't think any NAND manufacturer had a profitable 2023?). Now, they're cutting back production to profitable levels that actually meet demand, so prices will increase and return to normal.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So, uh, collusive behavior?

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't even be the first time for them.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago

Probably not even the tenth time.

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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Demand is way down, so they raise prices. This is the cycle that keeps repeating, and nobody should be surprised.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's.... thats's not how this works.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (12 children)

It's exactly how this works, and during a quarterly review with Samsung, they literally told me they were doing this. Nobody in the industry is surprised by this.

Not sure why you'd deny what you literally see happening.

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[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They also drastically cut supply.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 33 points 10 months ago

The main factor is normally panic article like this.

"Hey, the price is going to go up later this year!"

*people buy now*

*demand goes up*

*price goes up*

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, I saw this coming and got a new 2TB SSD before 11.11 even. Though now thinking if I should have gotten 4TB instead. xD

Also, this kinda is like collusion, no?

[–] Longpork2@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe that's their real play here? Put out a bunch of news about upcoming price hikes, and watch everyone scramble to buy up their current stock.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

They're not even going to make an excuse for it like "the power went off for a split second in one room at one factory ~~because we flicked a switch~~"? Regardless, I'm fine with waiting years for them to tire themselves out with all the screaming about how prices must rise. It gives me great pleasure to not reward this behavior while they're pulling this shit. Raise the prices all you want, I'm not buying.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago

Of course they are because they see line go up.

[–] jecht360@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Oh look, more stuff I just won't buy if prices go up.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

In the US there is enormous investment in new NAND and other chips manufacturing. The government does not want these products and materials to be expensive or scarce. So the good news is the US gov will likely jump on this immediately.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

I feel like China enacting protectionist policies on lithium will do more to drive up chip prices. People are broke right now, so choking out the retail supply of chips to artificially raise prices will just result in miserable quarters for Micron, Hynix, and Samsung.

[–] Xavier@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Too late, I was buying up a bunch of high TBW solid state drives the last ~2 years, even this Black Friday/Boxing Day there were a few last deals.

My focus was mostly on Intel Optane leftovers, but also Samsung Pro (NVMe, SATA, even microSD), Kingston enterprise (DC500M/DC600M/DC1500M, NVMe, SD/microSD), even some Seagate Nytro SATA/SAS enterprise drives, Crucial MX500, WD Red, and a bunch of other brands.

I'm a data hoarder organizer for family/relatives/friends I regularly give tech support for and myself. I love to recycle old PC I've build previously into NAS, media center, NVR or whatever new projects or ideas they come up with.

Unfortunately, I may have missed out on some great DDR4 and DDR5 deals I saw but was thinking it was not immediately necessary 🫤... oh well... we win some and lose some.

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