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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I need a Venn diagram of whiteness to really get this. Or a scale of some sort

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There are certain ethnicities that although white, have been marginalized and scapegoated for societies problems in the past. Groups like Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people, just above black people, especially in the US in the 18-1900's.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people

I'm pretty sure they weren't considered any tier of "white" at that time.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's why the US has St Patrick's Day and Christopher Columbus Day. They needed to prove their worth to earn "whiteness"

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

although white

Can't really say that when the whole category is nebulous and subjective

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Anglo-Saxon was the ~~top~~ only real white. Catholics were hated (so most of the mainland European). Irish were put into indentured servitude. Italians were essentially black. Ukrainians were slavs and were an entirely different species of humans, subhumans really. Same with Polish.

https://youtu.be/fxHWtw_GZIk

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago

Anglo-Saxon was the only real white

Germanized propagandist!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can tell an Italian by them m9ving their hands all over the place while they speak italian.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

What’s wrong spaghetti boy, can’t type “moving” without making huge hand motions? Good luck responding with your thumb and middle fingers touching the entire time.