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Which X11 software keeps you from switching to Wayland? (beehaw.org)
submitted 1 day ago by arsCynic@beehaw.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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For me AutoKey is absolutely essential to my workflow. I have tons of text expansions and shortcuts to "remap" keys. E.g., respectively, typing dAt expands into 2025-05-08, 13:47:40 CEST, and pressing alt + k simulates the arrow down key.

Secondly there's XScreenSaver which has so many wonderful (mathematical) visualizations that it would be a damn shame if these eventually get lost as Wayland gets more adoption.

None of these have Wayland alternatives as far as I know. For text expansion there's Espanso, but it doesn't support keyboard shortcuts yet.

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[–] magnus@lemmy.ahall.se 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

For me is the lack of virtual displays is Wayland.

I'm using a 49" monitor (with i3) and split it into virtual monitors/displays. For some tasks two displays are good, for others three, and all doesn't need to be the same size.

The reason for not using i3 splits is that many programs have fullscreen functions that I often use.

Watching a movie is one example, where I have a script that automatically calculate the optimal width without borders and gives me an extra virtual display beside with whatever's left.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hyprland can tell a window to be in fullscreen when in fact, it's not (it's called.. Fakefullscreen). I binded it to shift+f11 and its become part of my workflow, lol

[–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

Uhhh, I've been dreaming if this and now I've got it!

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 1 points 5 hours ago

I used to have issues with middle click scroll, but my own solution works fine and it works on Wayland and X11 too

[–] WallyHackenslacker@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 hours ago

To me it's mostly the lack of feature parity in kwin between x11 and Wayland, specially lack of global menu support for GTK apps in Wayland.

[–] andreax@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

I would really like to see xtrlock find its way into the Wayland session!

But at the moment, it's only available for wlroots based compositors...

[–] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

Ubuntu 24.04s KDE Package. Have I borked something or when will it ask me about upgrading?

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'm too dumb to set up Wayland on Nvidia and honestly don't really care to. My laptop has an intel haswell-ult so it works with Wayland ootb and all the apps I use on it (literally just calibre, falkon, lapce), amd libreoffice Writer) work fine.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Session restore

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 27 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely none. On my setup everything runs fine either natively or with Xwayland.

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, I think my sway config is around five years old now. The Wayland experience hasn't been entirely without warts, but as someone who kind of just uses the desktop to drive a browser and a bunch of terminals, there's not a whole lot of problems to run into either.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

keepassxc's autotype

also, nvidia

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are still some quirks but it's been generally fine for me with Nvidia, almost a year now.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

i heard about that. sadly my gpu is so old the latest driver that supports it is the 470 driver

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, you can hold onto that GPU for a little longer with X11. But it seems you'll need an upgrade some time later. Though if you don't game (aside from FOSS ones), Nouveau driver should do the job for your daily needs. However, it still needs time for Wayland.

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

the nouveau driver works fine except when it crashes for no clear reason after some hours of usage

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 38 minutes ago

Even on X11? I tried it on Wayland months ago to see its state and it was generally fine except gaming. Though the results still might depend on the card in use I guess.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Hey, I'm in the same boat. Gigabyte GTX 670. Wayland was a sluggish mess, and same goes for nouveau with X11.

I bit the bullet after eight months of running Arch like this, and experimenting around with newer iGPUs in laptops, and bought a new radeon finally. Time to retire this ancient piece of tech.

[–] DetachablePianist@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

RustDesk (remote desktop control) and Barriers (KVM-like server to control my laptop screen from my desktop just by moving mouse to that screen). Both of these are tightly integrated in my daily workflow and would be a hard loss.

There's a modern fork of Barriers but I haven't been able to get it working cross-platform yet. I know RustDesk is actively working to complete wayland support, but it's not quite there yet.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I think Rustdesk for me as well. My main computer is a Windows laptop, but I use a few Linux laptops around the house to control it and others with Rustdesk. Alt+Tab works on the remote system in Gnome Classic (I think that's what it's called - says X11) but on the other options it performs switches locally only. Tested on Debian and Fedora.

[–] 1smoothcriminal@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

I use rustdesk with wayland, works for me for everything i need it to. As for barriers, i believe input-leap works with wayland.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 6 points 21 hours ago

The inability to roll windows up into just the title bar, or to get Firefox to place each of its windows on the same virtual desktop as before, are major annoyances. Otherwise, Wayland runs better than I expected.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 19 hours ago

Network transparency

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Xfwm. Taskbars are now wayland, but don't autohide without the compositor supporting it.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 20 hours ago

I need to force keepass and some other things to x11 mode so that autotype and window detection works.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

AwesomeWM, and xdotool.

That's it. Oh and x-eyes of course

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Have you tried ydotools, which works on both Wayland and X?

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

what do you use x-eyes for?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

I don't think that was entirely serious...

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

👀

https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xeyes.1.html

Xeyes watches what you do and reports to the Boss.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There's ydotool.

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[–] VITecNet@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Easystroke https://github.com/thjaeger/easystroke, please, please, please somebody pick the project, I'll gladly pay a license to use it.

[–] ashaman2007@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] VITecNet@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

I tried Mouse Actions many times, just a different beast (many Easystroke users have the same opinion).

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

XFCE, mostly.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

RDP.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

GPU screen recorder, the hotkeys dont work in Wayland

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

This one should be getting resolved soon! With the new global shortcut portal

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 22 hours ago

Strange, they do for me on Plasma Wayland.

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 2 points 20 hours ago

Gnome. No shell restart on wayland, and not planned.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

sddm

[–] jh29a@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

huh? Isn't that the thing that let's me select the DE/Compositor/Server mashup while logging in? It just occured to me that this sounds like circular reasoning, but that's what it looks like it does

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Yes. It's the only package on my system that still depends on X. Without it, I could remove X entirely.

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