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[alt text: a two panel comic. In the first panel, a doctor is talking to a patient, and the patient is holding her head. The doctor is saying, "Does it hurt?", and the woman is replying, "Yes...". In the second panel, the doctor is replying, "Keep your cat inside or I'll punch you again". ]

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Reminder if you have an outdoor cat that you feed in your house, you are subsidizing it killing birds. Outdoor cats who are fed at home don't usually eat the birds they catch since they have a more reliable source of food at home, so they kill almost as many birds as a feral cat with no other food source but don't eat any of them and just leave them to die once they they're not fun to chase anymore. So outdoor cats killing birds is not "nature," they're an invasive species being fed farm-raised invasive species by the most widespread invasive species of all so they can go out and kill native birds that they won't eat.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find this to be a very cultural thing as to whether it's acceptable or not. Where I live cats roam the streets, if an American visited here they would be horrified.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one -3 points 5 months ago

It’s actually quite rare for cats to kill birds, it’s a skill very few cats have. None of our cats has ever brought back a dead bird, while they have gone on an absolute killing spree among the local mouse population.

The birds around our house (mainly jackdaws, which are wicked smart) like to taunt the cats though.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You say that like it's an option as if this dumbass creature that lives here would survive two hours in the streets

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you live in an area with wild predators that could pose a threat to small outdoor pets, maybe don't get a cat.

It's the same with the whole de-clawing thing. If you don't care for sharp teeth and claws, don't get a cat or ferret or any kind of carvivore.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cars shouldn't be outdoor pets. They are an invasive species in most parts of the world, and devestate local wildlife. Keep them inside.

[–] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I agree, cars are invasive & devastate local wildlife. But they don't belong inside, either.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Again. Just don't get a cat.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, if you can't keep them inside you shouldn't get a cat.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah. You know exactly what I mean. I don't know why you want to be hardheaded about it.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sorry for having a moral backbone ig. i have two cats that are traumatized from living outdoors. When the front door is open, they don't try to bolt, they stay put because they know they have it good. The outdoors is not good for domesticated cats, and domesticated cats are not good for local wildlife. There's zero reason to send them outdoors, unless you like inflicting harm on animals. I am very passionate about this, and it makes me very sad that people dump their babies outdoors because they don't want to spend the time and effort to provide them with enrichment.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That reads like you're another person that probably shouldn't have a cat.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

because i care about the wellbeing of cats? tf are you even talking about

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, but because you seem to have convinced yourself that you know better than everyone else.

When all you really know is you and yours.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

my opinions are based in facts and data, my dude. My personal connection to my two cats makes me extra passionate about this, but if the data said it was good for them to be outside, that's what i would be advocating for. Full stop.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

I have no doubt that you think so.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Same for humans. We're invasive too and shouldn't be allowed outside.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Theres only indoor and feral cats.