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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 158 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

I cannot comprehend people who agree to have a spy in their own home and they even pay for the privilege.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Its easy, people simply dont even think that it could be used to spy on them. Its just handy and funny tool. There is HUGE problem in the world with majority still naively trusting corporations to such extent saying anything to contrary seems like you are some conspiracy nut. Or if they don't trust them naively, they are so apathetic that they just think their information leaking doesnt matter, it can't be stopped anyway and that they just dont care about it.

Something really should be done to start having people care about things again, otherwise everyone will lose all rights to privacy eventually.

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[–] deddit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Pizza Over Privacy", a Stanford study... https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/pizza-over-privacy-paradox-digital-age Basically, people trade their privacy for convenience and don't consider the long term cost.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

To see whether a small incentive could influence a decision about privacy, researchers offered one group of students a free pizza — as long as they disclosed three friends’ email addresses.An overwhelming majority of the students chose pizza over protecting their friends’ privacy.

While I don't dispute the thesis, this is deeply flawed.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 134 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

In 2023, 60% of UK households had a smart speaker, up from 22% before the pandemic.

Jesus Christ. I had no idea so many people were buying these things. That's astounding.

If you'd asked me to guess what percentage of households had one, I'd have guessed single digits.

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I got several free from both google and amazon. My electric company gave me one too.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] indomara@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because we are the product...

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

remember when Texas power turned off peoples heaters when they were freezing to death as Rafael Edward Cruz went on a tropical vacation?

yeah, they did that because those people registered their smart thermostats with the company and gave them control to set the temperatures in their own damn homes.

"smart" means, "you don't own it".

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That depends on the kind of "smart".

I have a bunch of IKEA "smart" light bulbs, but they are connected through a Sonoff USB Zigbee dongle. And all of it is controlled through the open-source zigbee2mqtt and home-assistant.

No one, but myself and my family, have any control or ownership of any of those devices.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My parents' ISP router has Alexa integrated into it

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago
[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

whatthefuck

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

60% of people in UK are certified morons. Slightly higher than I expected.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the absofuckingworstly scariest thing about this is that I've personally read quite a few sci-fi books, like in half of them, like in any universe, such things were usually a Trojan horse by the threat of the week to exterminate the good guys, or at least Palpatine's way of spying, or whatever.

OK, Palpatine's coolest microphone was decorative trees with skin changing colors depending on vibrations, and a very complex system of restoring the sounds from image, if I remember that correctly, in one X-Wing book.

So how the hell does it happen that such things are presented in movies and books and series like a threat, and yet people buy them?

I can believe in people loving touchscreens because touchscreens were unfortunately popularized in Star Trek and even, sigh, Star Wars prequels, and everything sci-fi.

But this is something that was being recommended against in such media for decades.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

A Torment Nexus sounds cool

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I have three unopened google pucks that I received as gifts over the years.

I had four, but I opened one to take apart to help identify if it was possible to hack it.

at the time it was not. the only part that can be reused it the plastic shell.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 84 points 2 weeks ago (23 children)

The most concerning part about this article is that they put one in their nine-year-old's bedroom.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 45 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Based on the article, it lets her ask them things that she doesn't want to ask her parents, though I'm not sure that if I were 9 years old that I'd suddenly want to discover that my parents have a list of everything I've asked it and are reading through it, much less that Amazon has a database.

[–] brot@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, that is a terrible violation of trust. A parent should stop listening when they find out that they have a copy of such conversations of their child. They shouldn't write a newspaper article with citations about it

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that's a terrible idea.

[–] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

This seems like a bad idea, to me

[–] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To add to the other responses, and I suspect the real reason, is that Coco is listening to Audible Audio books regularly and/or music. It's mentioned and then dropped by the article fairly quickly.

Interesting how every comment on the article is doing the "you're a terrible parent, how could you do that" routine when I'll bet it's there because Coco either took the first one in or asked for a second one. Kid wants, kid normally gets one way or another.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They work great as an intercom, if you have them in every. Room

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, an intercom between you, your kids, and Amazon.

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[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its kinda depressing that the takeaway they seem have here is "we don't always have enough time for our family, but luckily Alexa can pick up the slack 😌"

Instead of "society pushes us to spend less time making meaningful connections and more time relying on services that cost you money or privacy"

Somebody's toddler is going to eat rocks after AI tells them it's safe, especially if you're giving your kids unfettered access to the internet, which is what Alexa is. You're just hoping Jeffy moderates good, when you and I both know rules and restrictions for an LLM are very hard to enforce.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I was thinking about their horrifying conclusion as well, and your comment made me pine for the days when you wouldn't know something. Think about it, back before the internet, if you had a random question, you either had to interact with some trusted person, or you went to the library and looked it up. It's like the ever-present access to all information has quelled or killed any notion of curiosity or boredom, and it's within those frames of mind that learning and inspiration come. I remember as a kid when I wouldn't know the answer to something, I'd think on it for days, weeks. I'd get stuck on a video game level, and hit my head against the wall for hours trying to overcome it, only to pick up a random gamer magazine off the rack at the mall, and read the solution. Treating that magazine like it was the lost treasure map of some ancient expedition, passing it around my group of friends... Interactions and experiences that are gone forever.

The idea that we've gradually went from relying on trusted professionals, learned educators, and scientific rigor, replacing them with a corporations data-harvesting LLM, on-line influencers, and click-bait "journals" cosplaying as academic centers with integrity. This article is basically celebrating the fact that we've off-shored all of our thinking, curiosity, and inquisitiveness to machines, all the while we struggle for scraps in a corporation dominated life devoid of genuine human interaction. We're all to busy sipping dopamine hits from a screen instead of actually living our lives.

I grew up while the internet was being slowly rolled out, and being from the last generation to remember what it was like before the internet, I can say that the things I miss most are privacy, the ability to be bored, and not knowing.

It's worse now, and it's harder everyday to imagine that life on this planet will improve.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

So it's exactly the same as before the Echo, then. Welcome to the human condition.

[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago

I asked my google home the same question and it told me that I told it that my dog is a good girl 3 times. I know it's not great for privacy, but it made me chuckle.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I asked that to chatgpt once and it's answer was something like "You like to translate R code to Python" just because I sometimes ask it's to translate R to Python, but I don't personally like it

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You don't like doing it so you ask something else to do it for you.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

It's completely irrelevant to the article, but I can't believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol

particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

someone need to backbone capitalism, he is a hero

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

they have hostile lobes

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

I feel like I looked into a bag labeled 'everything Alexa has ever heard' and gone, "I don't know what I expected."

On the other side of the coin, the shock shouldn't be what it knows, but what every single other device you own with a micrphone might also know.

Anyone here that isn't as equally distrusting of a stock, off the shelf cellphone is lying to themselves.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 7 points 1 week ago

I honestly thought this was !nosleep@lemm.ee for a second

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

you can go into the app and literally see your request history

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