Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Mozilla Firefox?
this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
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Actually, yes. Firefox is good but I hate the UI. Okay, Brave seems nice. Love the UI, sync feels slow, and why can I not move the top bar to the bottom on mobile????? Phones are BIG. Don't make it harder for me to use your product. Okay, there is Vivaldi, king of customisability. Nice, but feels slow. Back to Firefox. Still hate UI. And now wanting a better new tab page. Proceed to discover Tabliss for a good new tab page, and Firefox-UI-Fix on github to give me a better UI on Firefox desktop. Wow, problems solved. I'm sticking to Firefox forever (unless I decide to switch to Librewolf where I can still implement all the same fixes as on Firefox).
Firefox UI is controlled by CSS
Just find a UI you like and add it in
Firefox opening the gates for addons on mobile is some really good timing.
They really come in clutch with that upgrade. Some people are already drooling for that feature (including me)
Use nightly.
use iceraven
iceraven works on Android?
ye i use it
Moved to Firefox a while ago, specifically because of Manifest V3.
The only issue I've found so far is that you can't log in to PSN on it. Just locks the browser completely and you need to kill it in task manager. Apparently it's to do with password saving.
Hmm, I'm using PSN from FF. Problem with am extension, maybe?
get brave exclusively for psn?
Nope. Many Chromium forks already have very good inbuilt adblockers , which won't be affected by the MV3 stuff. On top of that, one could also use system-wide blockers such as AdGuard and DNS-level blockers (which is not even a bad idea if you're on Windows anyway).
System wide ad blockers can't block a lot of ads, namely same-domain ads or those that are built into the html. Much rarer than the external page kind (DNS ones) thankfully.
You can continue to cope or you can upgrade to a real browser.
I already upgraded to Brave years ago. Thanks. And fuck Mozilla.
You mean Chromium Brave Edition?
Brave isn’t any better of an option with all the controversies they’ve had.
If anything, they’re worse.
- Brave is an advertising company, that blocks everyone, but them. Forcing over people and companies into their system.
- They’re heavily in the blockchain ecosystem, with their own worthless crypto.
- They take from open source projects (uBlock, Chromium, etc), but threaten legal action when someone forks them.
- They install bloat/spyware on your Windows system (later claimed it was a mistake).
- Brave, and its CEO is right-wing, lobbying against things like same-sex marriage.
I could go on.
I really wonder if this will make any people move from Chrome to Firefox at all because they can't use their adblockers anymore. There are probably so few people that most of them already are on Firefox I guess.
Nope, then they will continue to whine about YouTube and Twitch spamming ads even though the solution already exists.
This ^ some people are weirdly hellbent against using Firefox for basically no reason.
Had a someone I know recently which between 3 different chromium browsers to find one where the adBlock still worked on Youtube, But would refuse Firefox for the pettiest of reasons from 'I can't sync logins with my google account' to 'That browsers for NERDS'
tbf, and I'm saying this as a Firefox user, some of the comments about Firefox here make me wanna just
The loudest parts of the userbase can change the perceptions of software to outsiders, very much like fandoms.
I for one can say I'm very on the fence whether I make the jump or not, because on the one hand I don't want to deal with MV3, but on the other hand Vivaldi is absolutely unique and Firefox doesn't even come close to replacing it in terms of features for me.
What Vivaldi features do you feel are game changing? I’m not that familiar with it and would love to hear from someone who uses Vivaldi.
Aside from the completely customizable UI, I'd say tab stacking and tab tiling. Web panels are cool as well, you can have translators, calculators and whatnot in your sidebar for quick access that way. It also has a built-in RSS feed reader which is neat.
As a fellow Vivaldi user, you know what'll really make you sad?
There was a plugin that offered practically-identical tiling functionality in Firefox (i.e., tab tiling within one window).
It still exists, but was broken when Firefox moved to manifest. Now it tries to replicate the behavior with individual windows instead, which feels awful to use.
There's a Firefox fork called Floorp that purportedly has Vivaldi-like tiling, but after a week with it, I couldn't figure out how to enable it. Plus, it's in its early stages and some of the users are vocally anti-Vivaldi (more specifically, anti-Floorp-becoming-Vivaldi-on-Firefox) so who knows—all those features might get stripped off down the line anyway.
Yeah I tried Floorp awhile ago and it looked interesting, but very early development and jank as hell. It might be something to keep an eye on as long as they keep adding more stuff to it...