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[–] The2b@lemmy.vg 199 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is just going to be used to allow fascist propaganda, isn't it?

[–] bimbimboy@lemm.ee 81 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

yes, surprising a total of 0 people.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I am Jack’s lack of surprise.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (9 children)

And still block curse words and specific terms. Fuck this place

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Yep. It's exactly what Facebook did not long ago. It's just the most open oligarchy you can imagine, just consolidating their interests to push fascism at full throttle.

Its gonna be interesting, knowing some world cup is gonna happen on US soil as well.

[–] marlowe221@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I assume you mean fascist propaganda over and above the right wing rabbit holes that already exist on YouTube….

Ugh, this is terrible.

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

Well yes. You obviously still can’t say “le dollar bean” without getting nuked from orbit. YouTube is a goodly Christian corporation after all, can’t have such content.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

First thought exactly.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

Example: Unaliving; PDF file; grape; etc.

Reality: Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, and other right wing grifters receive zero censorship while YouTubers still have to self censor to receive monetization.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

YouTube started to censor foss content for being violet and dangerous.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 22 points 1 month ago

They won't ever say it out loud but they have always removed videos for mentioning alternative frontends or other technology they view as direct threats to their revenue stream.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

for being violet

But what if it was chartreuse?

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

How long before Google locks YT down to loading only on Chrome, and only on Windows, Mac, ChromeOS, or Android, and only without ad blockers of any kind, including hardware ad blockers like PiHole being implemented anywhere, and straight-up blocking it from loading at all on non-Chrome browsers (to also include other Chromium browsers) and on Linux or iOS, and enforcing TPM2 and SecureBoot mandates for authentication, and blocking downloading and re-uploading of YT vids, using DRM?

Basically, I wouldn't put it above them to ensure their video platform only runs on their browser, and only on hardware that they deem worthy of running it, even if it means somehow implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit. Something else I wouldn't put it past Google to try, is completely discontinuing the YT browser client and fully locking the API down to the official app, and still implementing a Vanguard-style rootkit on that.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

they are working on it

don't worry, they didn't abandon it. they have continued development hidden from sight in the android version of the chromium engine

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Intention: YouTubers can stop with the whole self censoring shit.

lol. that's not the intention.

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[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago

Can we talk about adblockers, or is that still somehow worse than nazi shit?

Btw they removed a popular Youtuber's "Degoogle Your Life" series lmfao (Linus Tech Tips). But a far-right thinnly-veiled racist video? All a'okay according to Google.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Free speech" under capitalism means the freedom to promote fascism, rascism, misogyny, homophobia, genocide, etc...

But if you post half a second of a Disney movie, your account will be permanently deleted.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do people still have to say unalive?

Censorship is goddamn stupid. They should just tag content & let people decide what to filter.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Content speak continously erodes my frontal lobe.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I'm going to start using "inhumed".

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 34 points 1 month ago

If only half of that leniency were granted to selfhosting tools and adblockers

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

They opened their doors to the goose stepping. Fucking corporate shitheads.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

See the issue here is Google/Youtube still get to be the ones to decide what "may outweigh the harm risk". And the answer I bet will usually be whichever one serves their financial interests.

Which on one hand sure, it is their platform after all. But don't do me dry and claim you used lube.

[–] Peffse@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is such bad news. I'm sympathetic to content creators who have to step on eggshells to please the algorithm/advertisers... But this?

Yeah, this is not that. We all know who this is for.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

almost all the right wing contents get pushed to the front. there are some that are also rw that is buried by the algorithim, because they are loud mouths, i wonder if this will change for them too.,

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

We will (still) allow children's cartoon characters to be mutilated and put into explicit situations and then push them as child friendly, but how dare you use a swear in the first 15 seconds of a video or say the work kill.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I still wouldn't trust Google not to nuke my channel on a whim even in spite of those relaxed moderation rules. What's stopping a little bribe from the right company or political party from causing them to backpedal or even tighten their grip further?

This is why one should at least mirror their content to PeerTube or a similar alternative platform like that even if they're not going to just outright post future content to said alternative and give up on YT altogether.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I agree. We've seen enough times in the past where a creator would get a strike from a video several years old because the rules changes. Anyone legit should be careful.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 4 weeks ago

they dont need to nuke your channel, they just bury your videos with thier algorithim, this is what pushed many smaller content creators off youtube in the pass. a channel i used to follow, i would have to painstakingly search it through other videos that arnt even related to it.

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Great, now that 50% of a video can be a direct call for genocide, does that at LEAST mean I can use ONE instance of a "bad" word or speak of "icky" things like death and drug abuse without being demonized?

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Moderators were previously told to remove videos if one-quarter or more of the content violated YouTube policies. Now, that limit has been increased to half.

This seems like alien speak to me. They announce that shit, someone read it, and then repeated it in an article. But what does it mean?

Can you have 6 contents and make 2 really crazy? Can you tell people to commit violence for 5 minutes and then review a game for 6 minutes? Is there a dude with tvtropes open going through and marking the contents of content?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It depends on who is being targeted.

If you make a video calling for attacks on women, palestinians, gay people, etc., that's all good!

If you talk about taxing rich people, that's extreme violence. Immediate ban.

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Introducing: Pay More, Say More

Surely this can't become deeply problematic for the social fabric.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Videos are allowed if "freedom of expression value may outweigh harm risk"

oh it's that easy huh. why didn't we think of this before lol.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

They really are killin' everything, aren't they...

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

At least true crime youtubers won't have to bleep half their videos anymore /s

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

youtube shadowbanning, demonitization and censorship is the most retarded shit that's ever happened to the internet. the whole website is videos and comments of people who cater to kids and commercial advertisers and cant say shit.

[–] Twoafros@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This sucks but I think this will lead to a Youtube exodus and other platforms like Peertube will creator and user base will grow

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

How many people have even heard of peertube?

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[–] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I'm gessing that's not gonna positively impact the people i watch and instead go towards some dumb shits.

[–] Brewchin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

"Muh ~~freedums~~ profit" outweighs life. The silent bit spoken aloud. Cool cool.

As expected from this timeline and this garbage conglomerate.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I like freedom of speech but it seems like it would be pretty difficult to weigh those things against one another. what is the metric that they have in common? I don't know that there is one

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