this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2024
254 points (98.1% liked)

Technology

59495 readers
3135 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Fossil is quitting smartwatches::Fossil is going to stop making smartwatches. It was one of the most prolific companies creating Wear OS watches.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

Damn. Big fan of their hybrid smart watches (e-ink screen, ~10 day battery and looked like a watch).

Anyone know of any good similar products?

[–] LKC@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I don't know of any e-ink displays outside of Fossil but give Garmin a try. I use the Vivoactive 4 and get a week+ of battery.

I went from Pebble > Fossil > Garmin.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Watchy which is open source and comes in a build it yourself kit has an e-ink display.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Duranie@literature.cafe 5 points 9 months ago

Yep - Garmin Venu 3 here. I just charged and it's telling me 15 days of battery, but with my use I'll probably charge it in 12-13 days.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Withings. Small oled display, looks like an analog watch until you use it. Ton of sensors to monitor your health, or none if you don't want that. And a huge battery. Like huge enough to lose the charger between charges 😆

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

I'll second this, stupid good battery life but a fairly simple watch. Doesn't do apps but it does health tracking and notifications and it's pretty good at looking like a watch instead of a toy.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Krzd@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Even more, I get pretty consistently 3 weeks per charge with my fossil hybrid

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Garmin is know for excellent battery life. I don't think they use e-ink though.

A much bigger drawback (to me at least) they lack Google Pay support and keep pushing Garmin Pay which is not widely supported.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

?

Is there really any functional difference which backend is providing that virtual card number? I have never seen a terminal anywhere that A) supported contactless in the first place, but B) did not work with the Garmin Pay feature of my Fenix 6. Even out in the sticks. Not-a-one.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

The difference is in the bank support. All contactless terminals support all NFC payment providers. But banks don't. Each bank chooses with which services to integrate, and this part is not standardized so it requires some investment on the bank side.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That’s a shame. I really liked my Fossil before I switched to the Apple Watch. It did a fantastic job of looking like a normal watch while still being a decent smartwatch.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (8 children)

The square face of the Apple Watch really irks me.

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 36 points 9 months ago

The Apple part of the Apple Watch really irks me.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 9 months ago

I know I'm in the minority, but I switched from a square Android watch (LG G Watch from the neolithic era) to a round watch, and I miss the square. A round screen is awkward for anything but a simple watch face, IMO. I use my new watch much less than my old watch, partly because of this, and I don't think I'll ever buy another one.

[–] manbytesdog@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Visually as a watch design I agree with you. Having used quite a few round face smart watches before getting an Apple Watch I can absolutely see why Apple went with a square face. It just makes way more sense for displaying data. A square space displays more information in a an easier to read format.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'd love a smartwatch that, along with telling time, is just a screen that shows me my notifications and a button to pause my music.

[–] nawa@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Garmin hybrid watch might be something you'd like.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are dozens like those...

[–] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Such as? Not doubting, I just want to know

[–] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago
[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Another shout out for the PineTime here, which is open source.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Nach@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 months ago
[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Withings, Garmin and Casio have them in very different styles, plus a lot of Chinese ones which names I don't remember.

Literally months of battery time, up to unlimited for the solar ones.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] tehbilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Literally this. Maybe let me see a preview of notifications, but that's not a make-or-break issue for me.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] NiceToCats@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love my pre-smart era Fossil watch. I hope they go back to making classy digital watches again, I would buy another.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Will there ever be a day where I can just buy a smart watch strap to attach to my mechanic watch to get biometrics and what not?

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Soon. Oura rings exist so they could be an alternative.

Invis make straps without sensors but with NFC payments.

There's clearly a market for rings as fitness trackers so people can avoid a watch altogether

Wanting a watch strap is a bit more niche but it'll come around as a product I'm sure.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

A smart strap honestly sounds like a gap in the market. Seen quite a few people wearing a normal watch and trackers.

[–] Strip@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't you need a paid subscription just to get full access to your biometric data from the Oura ring?

[–] TheD00d@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yes you do.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Lol the rings that have a lifespan of 3 years or so, almost as much as a midrange smartphone and ALSO have a subscription fee that almost doubles the cost of the ring over its lifespan?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BigilusDickilus@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They have to get usable at some point, but I got tired of the (shitty off-brand) smart watch I had after a couple minutes. I replaced it with a fully analog Seiko watch and a fitness tracker ring.

Way easier to manage and still meets the needs addressed by the smart watch.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I really enjoyed my Samsung watch. I was able to give it a face that looked like a nice watch. It was round. I could get notifications without taking my phone out of my suit jacket. I still have it and it works with my work iPhone and personal android. I hardly have any use for it now that I work from home though.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Seiko are great watches. I have a couple of G-Shock watches and a Garmin heart rate monitor watch. The Garmin is kinda like a smart watch but more practical. It's got all the sports stuff you'd ever need but GPS too. It makes for an excellent daily-driver watch.

I find HRM watches to be very handy. I can tell from checking my heart rate whether I need to slow down my running speed. I can tell if I start running for something how long I'll last by checking my heart rate. If it's in the "anabolic zone" I'll crap out in a few minutes. If it's in the "aerobic zone" I'll crap out when my body gives up.

It's also been handy for monitoring my general fitness. Resting heart rate, steps, floors travelled, etc. I recommend the Garmin Fenix if you ever wanna try out a 'Smart watch' again: https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/641479

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I think "full blown" smart watches like the Apple Watch and Samsung Gear are largely a waste of money. I always considered getting one, but always read the largely "meh" or negative reviews from them. When I got my Galaxy S23 Ultra Verizon said I could get the Gear 5 for "free" I just had to pay $5/month for LTE service. The thing lasts about 15 hours on a single charge, it's damn near impossible to type anything on, I've never used it to make or receive a phone call, the fitness tracking is nice, but unless you're a hardcore athlete/gym rat you don't really need it, and the sleep tracking is nice, but once again not really that useful. After about a year of using it, I'm largely over it.

[–] june@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I really rely on my watch for notifications in particular since it’s MUCH less intrusive to check my wrist than pull my phone out. The other big benefit for me is maps. I get a tap on the wrist when my turn is coming up, which works particularly well when walking like I’m doing a lot of in NYC this week.

That said, my watch is something like 5 years old now and I see zero reason to upgrade. I’ll wear it till it dies and then buy whatever the cheap version is.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Garmin vivomove.

Analog face, and a wee display that tells you whether you want to look at your phone when it buzzes. Counts steps and stuff if you're into that. Week of battery (still 5-7 days after like 5-6 years of owning mine). Perfect daily wear.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

+1 for Garmin!! I've got 2 Fenix watches and they're so important to me I'd be lost without them.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah I got a watch 4 for free with my s22 ultra, I gave it a good shot and used it for a few months but went back to my garmin. I simply don't need a lot of the "smart" features aside from notifications and fitness tracking, which garmin does better, and then there's the battery.... different worlds there

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] stackPeek@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Smart watches looks interesting to me at first, but knowing how it only lasts 3-5 years and additionally companies loves to purposely make stuff obselete quickly, I'd rather just buy normal watch.... Or just look at my phone's clock.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Agreed, I regret buying my Galaxy Watch 4. The sleep and exercise tracking is nice to have but otherwise it is just an inconvenient watch because you have to remember to charge it daily.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sucks but they couldnot keep up. I'm rocking a Garmin and am very happy with it

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Batbro@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

That's sad but at the same time, their QC wasn't that great, I had a ring fall off of one and the entire back fall off the other.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The company announced this afternoon that it would leave the smartwatch business and redirect resources to its less-smart goods instead.

The company has been one of the most prolific makers of Wear OS smartwatches over the years, and its absence will leave a large gap in the market.

“Fossil Group is redirecting resources to support our core strength and the core segments of our business that continue to provide strong growth opportunities for us: designing and distributing exciting traditional watches, jewelry, and leather goods under our own as well as licensed brand names.”

This shouldn’t come as a huge shock if you’ve been paying attention to Fossil the past few months.

The company regularly put out smartwatches through Wear OS’s toughest years and was often a permanent fixture at CES.

What’s more, Fossil was expected to announce news of a new Gen 7 featuring the Qualcomm Snapdragon W5 Plus platform in 2023 — however, it was nothing but crickets the entire year.


The original article contains 287 words, the summary contains 160 words. Saved 44%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I like the style. I might just skip smart watches just because of this.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just want Pebble back 😭😭😭

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›