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Your TV Is Spying On You (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Pro@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.

Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.

Welcome to the future of "entertainment."

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (8 children)

So does your isp, and uses that for targeted ads. My pihole is constantly blocking a domain ran by xfinity that collects data for their targeted ad service

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago

I don't think those two facts are related? Your isp doesn't need to connect to its servers from within your local network to track your internet usage. Something else in your network must be trying to connect to that domain

[–] plantsmakemehappy@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What domain do I can make sure it's blocked?

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks, looks like it's on the Stevenblack list.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've really gotta look into pihole.

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[–] Nima@leminal.space 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh I disabled my "smart" TV's ability to connect to the internet. its a dumb TV now.

it made the mistake of showing me a banner ad while I was gaming. so I promptly cut its balls off in retaliation.

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can run pihole on Ubuntu.

Point all your network traffic on it and you can still use your TV without your tv using you.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

You probably can use your tv without it using you, or probably not.

I, too, use pihole. But it does not prevent your data from leaking 100% and never will. And it’s easily circumvented by using other DNS servers or even by connecting to hardcoded IPs. I dont know specifically about TVs, but some manufacturers do that.

The only way to make sure that TV can never spy is to never connect it to the internet.

Spy all you want Agent Hisense of the Roku org, I've got you in a black box. Your communications have been cut! You'll never report back to HQ now!

[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stupid TVs FTW. If you can’t buy them stupid, give them a WiFi lobotomy.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

There has to be a youtube guide to giving WiFi Lobotomy

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (11 children)

YOUR tv is spying on you. MY tv has no smart capability.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It doesn't if you don't connect it to the internet. Fortunately most smart TVs still have HDMI inputs so you can use them as dumb TVs with a PC.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Yep. My TV has not and never will be on the Internet in any way. I picked it for its screen quality, and the fact that it also has "smart" components never even entered into the decision. Because those smart components will literally never do anything.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

no it isn't. yours might be, but not mine.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My TV is not a smart TV, it's not spying on me.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How old is it ? Which one did you buy

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Well, maybe a Hisense or a cheap soundbar might have a listening device, but they'll be hard pressed to phone home.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My ACL says my TV can't talk to the internet.

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[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

The company that made my TV is engaged in copyright infringement, you say? Transmitting copyrighted images over the Internet for profit?

Huh.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In other news, water found to be wet, puppies cute. More at 11.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you have pictures of these puppies? We need confirmation.

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Hundreds of snapshots a second? So my tv has at least 200 Hz? Or do they snap the same frame multiple times just for fun?

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Part of the reason why I take good care of my little 24" dumb TV. It's on the lower end (poor viewing angles, absolutely no adjustment on the legs) but I still have a use for it, so I won't be replacing it.

The other concern I have with smart TVs is because manufacturers basically install a smartphone SoC, the TV's lifecycle is now the same as a smartphone. Most people probably won't connect a new smart TV box to their discontinued, laggy (thanks to bloated apps) smart TV, the completely functional unit just gets replaced.

We need regulation to be able to unlock these devices and make available the firmware drivers so that after the manufacturer stops support, the community can continue it (and obviously for us hackers, we would strip the system of all telemetry)

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Comms must be infrequent bc my domain sink doesn't log anything like that from my tv when I've checked

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
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