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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek says Apple's new App Store changes are a 'new low' (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 9 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek says Apple's new App Store changes are a 'new low'::Spotify chief executive Daniel Ek said Apple's new changes to its App Store in the EU are a "masterclass in distortion."

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[+] snek@lemmy.world 105 points 9 months ago (2 children)

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 65 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I hear you but Apple's stance on these issues also stops something like an F-droid Iphone equivalent.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I guarantee you Google is taking notes.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Don't think android could get away with doing something like this. The biggest company in the space (Samsung) has been pretty firm and intense about the samsung app store

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

It's not like the idea of forcing everyone to pay a toll to use their operating system never occured to them. They had Apple to use as an example right from the start.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm closer and closer to getting rid of all proprietary software/hardware. Waiting patiently for my Sony and Fitbit to die out so I can replace them with literally anything but Android, preferably something that works with GadgetBridge.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What replacements are you looking at for the Fitbit?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No specific brands in mind but I'm also open for suggestions

Preferably something with an SDK to be able to add custom functionality

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dang I was hoping there was something you could tell me.

Pinetime (or timeline, can't remember which) might suit you, but I don't think it's ready for me. I don't want another tinker device, I want something that just works, but I also don't want a corporate spy device. I think I'm outta luck until pinetime is complete.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 3 points 9 months ago

the amazfit bip is nice, if they're still selling them. I've had mine for 4 years now. Transflective screen so the battery lasts a week+, and it works with gadgetbridge so zero cloud phoning-home. Not as many features as a full watchos or wearos watch, but it gives me notifications, and monitors heart rate with zero spying.

Gadgetbridge is pretty awesome in general btw, it's a fully open-source, fully offline app for managing and communicating with bluetooth things like smart watches and headphones. It's on F-Droid.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

😂I’m waiting for my iPhone X to die as well

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 7 points 9 months ago

But that's not why Mr. Out-of-touch Swedish Billionaire is grumpy.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Was that a possibility before the changes?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Not these ones specifically but that's why I said, "these issues." The way they run their app store and their stance on sideloading is all coming from the same anti-competitive strategy.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It has always been a possibility but apple's business model is "be the biggest monopolistic piece of shit possible" so that's always going to override anything but a law that forces them to not be a monopolistic piece of shit, something the EU attempted here, but apple made sure to find a way to say they're following the law while simultaneously flouting it as hard as possible

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The users are the ones getting screwed. The costs of business are always passed to the customers. In the case of Google's and Apple's taxes this means all the customers and not even the ones doing IAP purchases because unlike actual sales taxes, apps aren't allowed to charge them directly to the buyer.

[–] mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

That’s not true at all, just don’t buy through Apple/Google, buy off their website. Apps charge extra for IAP (vs online) all the time, I have no clue what you are talking about.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how much they can raise the price for the monthly Spotify subscription before people go back to pirating.

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Also 70% of any revenue increase goes straight to royalties, so it's diminishing returns.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 20 points 9 months ago

Funny it is to live, there's never peace, always somebody trying to eat somebody else or avoid being eaten. So happy I'm neither company's customer.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

After sitting with our legal team to parse through the fine print of Apple's DMA announcement (that took a while), which is, at best vague and misleading, I wanted to share my thoughts.

Under Apple's new changes, apps with over one million downloads will need to pay a "core technology fee" for "each first annual install per year."

That puts an app like Spotify — which Ek said has more than 100 million downloads in the EU — in an "untenable situation" because it drastically increases the cost of acquiring new customers.

For its part, Apple said in a statement that it seeks to support developers, including Spotify, which it acknowledged as the world's "most successful" music streaming app.

While Apple's tight hold over the iOS ecosystem has helped it reap billions in revenue, it has also caused it to run afoul of regulators who believe its tactics stifle innovation and suppress new entrants.

Apple's App Store change not only falls short of that ideal, but "mocks the spirit of the law and the lawmakers who wrote it," Ek said.

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[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Oh no! A billionaire doesnt like getting squeezed by another billionaire!!!

Meanwhile, spotify pays the lowest rates to artists.....