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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 154 points 5 days ago (21 children)

The 250 year thing is basically completely made up BS

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Indeed. The empire you left to make your own with blackjack and hookers was nearly double that. If you want to be facetious too, then probably triple.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Uh, yeah, not like this.

If you're sitting around waiting for the empire to fall, then it's never going to fall. Empires fall because people make them fall.

And it's going to be achieved with blood...

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Also, ask when Rome fell, historians wont agree on any specific date. They were never the top of the town afterwards, but the fall was more of a gradual multi-century tumble punctuated by hitting every rock on the way down.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A watched empire never falls.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 81 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

I hate to be nitpicky about a meme but I love to be nitpicky. This claims is based on bullshit statistics that the author made up or bent to his will. The Ottoman empire alone shows this to be incorrect but Rome too stands out. Besides, what would an arbitrary amount of time have to do with the collapse of complex economic systems. Its bullshit idealism and I hate seeing it.

I am begging the US to collapse though

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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

The Roman Empire split in 395 AD. The Western Roman Empire, including the city of Rome itself, fell in 476 AD.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

in b4 someone says that it is an "average".

that number is made up BS anyways

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Forget about averages, his post isn't even factually correct. Rome did not last 1,480 years.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

depends how you define Rome, from 753bc and the Byzantine empire lasted all the way to 1453CE. so Rome lasted longer if you count it as the Roman empire.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Roman Empire began in 27 BC with Augustus, the first emperor of Rome. It eventually split in half in 395 AD. The Western Roman Empire, including the city of Rome itself, fell in 476 AD. The Eastern Roman Empire, or the Byzantine Empire was centered on Constantinople, not Rome.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yhea, but they still considered themselves Roman.

the point is that it is impossible to determine when exactly an empire begun or ended.

we could argue for weeks and the Roman empire, and that's just one of countless empires.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The point is Rome did not last 1,480+ years as you and the other poster claimed, not even close. Odoacer conquered Rome and became the first barbarian king of Italy in 476 AD.

tell that to the byzantines who claimed to be the successors of the Roman empire. don't think they got the memo

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Mean, mode, or median?

What's the standard deviation look like?

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Of course this is incorrect, go look up an empire and see.

... Roman empire got over 1000 years, Ottoman's got 623 years, Mongol empire only got 162.

...and Italy, Turkey, and Mongolia are still around, they're just not empires anymore. They're Nations.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago (5 children)

When someone says "death to America", they aren't saying "death to Americans". A government/state is a regime, not all it's people, despite how much as nationalists love to stoke that sort of patriotism. So I have no problem with the slogan, I call for the fall of the US imperialist regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America#Interpretation_and_meaning - has some confirmations from various Iranian politicians and a travel writer.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Usians: "hate the government not the people"

Usians when hearing someone else say "hate the government not the people" about USA: "we're gonna kill you"

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Thankfully, nothing lasts forever.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Empires don't end, they fizzle out.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Even if this statistic wasn't bullshit, this comic has an inherent cruelty to it that ironically feels very American

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 days ago

It's not correct, but would be nice.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Facebook type posting

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Despite all the and suffering it has caused and will cause, Trump admin has at least handed us the beginning of a breakdown in US hegemony as trust has eroded with other nations who are all busy pivoting away from it right now.

Unfortunately upon breaking the gridlock, other nations are scrambling to maintain the status quo rather than leaning into the future by redoubling commitments to address human and climate crises before it’s too late for the humans.

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