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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 154 points 1 week ago (26 children)

The 250 year thing is basically completely made up BS

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I hate to be nitpicky about a meme but I love to be nitpicky. This claims is based on bullshit statistics that the author made up or bent to his will. The Ottoman empire alone shows this to be incorrect but Rome too stands out. Besides, what would an arbitrary amount of time have to do with the collapse of complex economic systems. Its bullshit idealism and I hate seeing it.

I am begging the US to collapse though

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Of course this is incorrect, go look up an empire and see.

... Roman empire got over 1000 years, Ottoman's got 623 years, Mongol empire only got 162.

...and Italy, Turkey, and Mongolia are still around, they're just not empires anymore. They're Nations.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Uh, yeah, not like this.

If you're sitting around waiting for the empire to fall, then it's never going to fall. Empires fall because people make them fall.

And it's going to be achieved with blood...

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Idealism is tossing a toll on your mental health

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

No, Tattorack is correct. Material conditions decaying makes it easier to topple, but Materialists know that without the working class organizing and acutally overthrowing the system, it won't fall. The system still has to be killed and replaced, otherwise it will linger on.

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[–] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

When someone says "death to America", they aren't saying "death to Americans". A government/state is a regime, not all it's people, despite how much as nationalists love to stoke that sort of patriotism. So I have no problem with the slogan, I call for the fall of the US imperialist regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America#Interpretation_and_meaning - has some confirmations from various Iranian politicians and a travel writer.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

It's not correct, but would be nice.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mean, mode, or median?

What's the standard deviation look like?

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[–] fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

in b4 someone says that it is an "average".

that number is made up BS anyways

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Forget about averages, his post isn't even factually correct. Rome did not last 1,480 years.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

depends how you define Rome, from 753bc and the Byzantine empire lasted all the way to 1453CE. so Rome lasted longer if you count it as the Roman empire.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Roman Empire began in 27 BC with Augustus, the first emperor of Rome. It eventually split in half in 395 AD. The Western Roman Empire, including the city of Rome itself, fell in 476 AD. The Eastern Roman Empire, or the Byzantine Empire was centered on Constantinople, not Rome.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yhea, but they still considered themselves Roman.

the point is that it is impossible to determine when exactly an empire begun or ended.

we could argue for weeks and the Roman empire, and that's just one of countless empires.

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The point is Rome did not last 1,480+ years as you and the other poster claimed, not even close. Odoacer conquered Rome and became the first barbarian king of Italy in 476 AD.

tell that to the byzantines who claimed to be the successors of the Roman empire. don't think they got the memo

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

The Roman Empire split in 395 AD. The Western Roman Empire, including the city of Rome itself, fell in 476 AD.

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