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‘For those of us with nothing to fear, the truth can’t come soon enough,’ the actor shared on X

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 346 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Crazy how Spacey’s career abruptly ended, even though he was acquitted and/or found not guilty. Yet Trump, who has lost his civil sexual assault cases, is the fucking president of the United States and no one will do anything about it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 163 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You forgot about being a 34x convicted but not sentenced criminal.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He was sentenced, it's just that his sentence was ... nothing. Which of course is a totally appropriate penalty for a fucking felony.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago

yes, it is revealing how flexible the conservative soul is when it comes to corruption and perversion, while simultaneously being inflexible about things like compassion, charity and kindness.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Spacey would still be making movies now if he’d just preyed on vulnerable women instead.

Dustin Hoffman, Ben Affleck, Morgan Freeman, Ryan Seacrest all have multiple SA allegations that they were able to play down and keep working, but those were all from women.

Most homophobia stems from the fear of male rape, so the usual meninist/MRA crowd who scrambled to defend “innocent until proven guilty” for Russell Brand (3 upcoming producer credits) are nowhere to be seen when it’s Spacey.

(for clarity, this is not a defense of Spacey, it’s an attack on hypocrisy)

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only way I can lose is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.

-- Edwin Edwards

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ is that a real quote? It's accurate AF. Like, uncomfortably accurate.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How can you mention these people and forget Jared Leto? He's an actual cult leader.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only true thing Trump has ever uttered was that he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose support.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That is so not true. He also said "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."

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[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 182 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We don't need your help here..

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Right? Like we get it, you're not in the files, and you want to remind everyone you were acquitted and found not civilly liable of your own sexual misconduct. But "not guilty" is not the same as "innocent," and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago (16 children)

But “not guilty” is not the same as “innocent,” and dodging legal responsibility is not vindication.

Basically the courts don't matter and all that matters is public opinion? And this is where you launch into a "the courts are corrupt" and "the rich never get punished" or some similar BS?

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I mean are they wrong that the rich never really get punished? Trump and those 34 convictions that resulted in nothing already forgotten? Diddy getting a not guilty for the severe charges also forgotten?

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[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Kevin Spacey aside, you seem to be saying you don’t support the concept of “innocent until proven guilty.”

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

probably becauses hes into male minors. and not female like most of the pedophiles/ephebophiles out there.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's just a synonym for libertarian.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 23 points 1 week ago

That's so funny

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's a distinction some make, where pedophiles go for the kid kids, like prepubescent, where ephebophiles want the ones who have at least started puberty but are still kids.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Hold my beer, it's even more complicated

  • Infantophiles go for 0-5 (up until developed consciousness)
  • Pedophiles ~6-beginning of puberty
  • Hebephiles - going through puberty
  • Ephebophiles - after puberty but before adulthood
  • Teleiophiles - 18-late 30s
  • Mesophiles - 40s-60s
  • Gerontophiles - 70+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

Don't ask me why I know, I just like getting to the grit of things.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"My computer recently crashed and I've lost all my friends' email addresses."

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

I mean, it's the one time he's guaranteed to not be named in a sexual assault case, so why not?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I know and agree with everyone’s anger toward Spacey. But, and hear me out here, if it means releasing the Epstein files, then so be it. Let the man speak. Once that’s done, he can go fuck right off again.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Somehow I don't think he'll be the make-or-break that determines whether the files get released.

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[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 99 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Its easy if you have nothing to fear because you are already convicted

He wasn't though, except in the court of public opinion. He's been acquitted or found not liable in all of the cases which have gone to trial.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Oh, I didn't follow it closely but I was convinced he was convicted of sexual abuse. I guess it just speaks about the power of public opinion even if you don't get formally convicted. For better or worse.

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[–] doublebatterypack@piefed.social 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's not worried because Epstein didn't traffic little boys.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We actually don't know that. We just know for sure that he and Maxwell trafficked little girls for a whole bunch of famous and powerful people who killed him before he could talk.

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[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

In 2017, Spacey faced several allegations of sexual assault and sexual harassment. On October 29, 2017, actor Anthony Rapp was the first to accuse Spacey of sexual misconduct.In the following weeks, other accusers came forward, including actor Roberto Cavazos, filmmaker Tony Montana, Richard Dreyfuss's son Harry, and at least eight people who worked on House of Cards.

In the wake of these claims, Netflix cut ties with Spacey, shelving his biopic of Gore Vidal and removing him from the last season of House of Cards. His completed role as J. Paul Getty in Ridley Scott's film All the Money in the World (2017) was reshot with Christopher Plummer. Spacey has denied the accusations and was found not liable in a 2022 civil lawsuit filed by Rapp in New York. In a separate criminal case in London, he was acquitted by a jury of sexual assault charges in 2023.

For the people who know he did smth, but didn't know what. I had always assumed bit was paedophilia or smth. Gay sexual misconduct was not gonna be smth I would've guessed, didnt even know he was gay. But then again I know nothing of any celebrity's life.

With the number of people from just the house of cards set making the allegations, it feels highly likely he's guilty.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Those allegations began after Anthony Rapp alleged that Spacey, while appearing intoxicated, made a sexual advance toward him at a party in 1986, when Rapp was 14 (so it was pedophilia after all) and Spacey was 27. Rapp had also shared this story in a 2001 interview with The Advocate, but Spacey's name was redacted from publication to avoid legal disputes and public outing.

Spacey stated on Twitter that he did not remember the encounter, but that he owed Rapp "the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior" if he had behaved as asserted.

On September 9, 2020, Rapp sued Spacey for sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress under the Child Victims Act.

In the subsequent federal civil court proceeding, a jury found that Spacey did not molest Rapp and was found not liable on all counts, with Rapp subsequently ordered by the court to pay Spacey $39,089 for the costs of litigation.

Fifteen others then came forward alleging similar abuse, including Boston anchorwoman Heather Unruh, who alleged that Spacey sexually assaulted her son; filmmaker Tony Montana; actor Roberto Cavazos; Richard Dreyfuss' son Harry; and eight people who worked on House of Cards. The Guardian was contacted by "a number of people" who alleged that Spacey "groped and behaved in an inappropriate way with young men" as artistic director of The Old Vic theatre.

Jesus fucking Christ this is bleak.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Rapp had to pay Spacey thirty nine thousand dollars.

If you ever wonder why victims don't come forward, think about the humiliation, the accusations, the assumptions, the trauma relived and repeated and revisited and repeated again and again. And in the end, the law says "we won't protect you" and the court says "we don't believe you" and your abuser says "you owe me money."

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[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

it feels highly likely he’s guilty

It depends on what your charges are (and I know someone will only read one sentence of this and down vote me but please hear me out.) Is he a criminal? No. Not after the shit show that was his trial. His accusers were caught flat out lying so hard I doubt there is a judge in this world who would've found Spacey guilty. The guy was totally cancelled, no friends with the back against a wall but walked out free because the accusers couldn't come up with a story that didn't contradict basic, easily verifiable facts like dates for example.

Is he a huge, narcissistic slug with a short temper that abused his status to do unethical things? Yeah, I think so. I guess that was the reason he had no allies in any of this. His "friends" probably never really liked the guy and didn't think he was worth risking their entire careers for even if they believed him.

Why am I saying all this? Because it serves as yet another example where the court of the public was way too overkill because of some hearsay. The mob is more invested in their own individual feelings than the facts. "It feels highly likely he’s guilty" really hammers home what went wrong here.

Someone doesn't have to actually do crimes to be a bad person. I haven't watched Spacey movies since all of this just like I haven't watched Cruise movies ever since I first heard about Scientology. Seeing their faces gives me the ick and I don't think these guys deserve my support but that doesn't mean I think they're rapists.

That being said we both know why he probably asks for the release of the files. It doesn't matter if he's guilty when everyone thinks he is so this little PR stunt is a desperate attempt to be on the right side of something and make himself look less guilty no matter if the files are released or not. I have little pity for him but we can do better.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

he's mad wasn't invited to those parties and had to get his own victims

[–] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Perverts can sniff out other perverts I guess is the point of this story?

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[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He proudly proclaims that he didnt need any help to prey upon his victims

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Anything to ratchet up the pressure on that orange toddler is welcomed.

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