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Giving Up on Element & Matrix.org (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

submitted 4 days ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Iv tried matrix a couple times. I wanted to like it but couldnt get on with it.

Signal and simplex are still my prefrence

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 days ago (10 children)

i want 90s era icq and 2000s era msn back :(

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

But they both closed source protocols locked down to specific corp

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[–] yessikg@fedia.io 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

XMPP is still an option

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[–] supermurs@kbin.earth 19 points 4 days ago (9 children)

For me Matrix is fine, I can use IRC, Whatsapp and Discord with it. But Element is not my cup of tea, especially with Firefox as it doesn't play any videos other users are sharing. The same videos work fine with Cinny.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm completely afraid of logging into fedora.im now. It's so engulfed in spam, not even normal phishing spam. Absolutely horrifying spam, like gore and killing and other deranged shit.

I had to move back to matrix.org and abandon my account.

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[–] Mio@feddit.nu 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am glad someone can admit it failed and we have to learn from this. I am just wondering what it takes to succeed.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

start with a discord clone

make it e2ee

make it federated

i feel like it shouldnt be this hard, but I'm not the one developing matrix, nor XMPP, nor the 3rd smaller option you the reader is wanting me to list that I am unaware of

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't fucking clone the godaweful mess that is Discord. Please, for the love of God start with something else.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

Discord is what people like and are used to though. If you want the average user to switch it needs to be somewhat familiar.

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