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Republican state Senator Jay Collins, the bill's sponsor, said the measure was about parental rights: "We should let them say what's best for their kids at 16- to 17-year-olds, that's what we're saying by this."
Anyone who puts forth a measure aimed at "parental rights", it's always something that's aimed at parents' right to treat their children like property
Every one of these is always "Parent's Rights Act" and the text is like "murdering your gay/trans 10-year-old is now totally legal".
"My kids are in need of a proper traditional upbringing, which means locking them in a box and tenderizing them like veal, until they're old enough to be sold at auction."
It would also have scrapped required 30-minute meal breaks
It's a parent's right to make sure their child works an 8 hour shift with no breaks! Breaks are socialism!
They've already scrapped mandatory water breaks for outside workers :(
"You should be able to give your child a job at a slave wage in awful conditions. That's a parental decision.
"What if I want to give my child the opportunity to explore their gender identity? Thats a parental decision too."
"Off to the gulag with you all."
~~states~~parents rights!
Why is it always about slavery?
Funny how you never hear them say “parental responsibilities.”
On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it's based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.
You got me for a second there.
I thought you would make a "the onion" joke of florida plan's to send cancer patient to work the fields as a "treatment" for cancer.
I'm surprised (and kinda of relieved?) that your comment is actually about a new scientific discovery.
1, 2, 3, 98 99 100 here I go!
Hey, found you! And yes, I can time and space travel to this comment out of this one https://lemmy.world/comment/18397250
The bill would have permitted 16- and 17-year-olds to work overnight on school days and work longer than an eight-hour day before a school day. Some 14- and 15-year-olds would also have been allowed to work those hours.
This is a horrifying concept and a great way to keep kids uneducated so they keep voting for lying repubs when they get older.
Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: "Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that's how it used to be when I was growing up."
They also used to work in factories where they'd get maimed and other high-risk environments. Shall we bring that back too, Governor Dipshit Fascist? Seriously, get fucked.
They are framing it like plucky shirtless college boys might wanna go pick cucumbers for a weekend to make a few bucks for rootbeer floats down at the soda-fountain.
One of the things that infuriates me about our species broadly is how terrible people are at visualizing actual, real systems and their scope and scale.
If you don't know anything about the factory-farming our society requires to survive, you should probably take a short tour of the massive machine we've built and depend on so you understand the scale of the problem and why even the immigrants we have/had now aren't even enough to keep the system running. This is why aging populations are a huge problem, this is a foundational cornerstone of our whole civilization, much like medicine and vaccines, and it's being waved off like something we can just swap out demographics for funsies and to give bro's trying to afford their new baseball mitts and textbooks, all good, right??
So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?
I mean, that's one way to look at it.
The more accurate way to look at is that the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force their children into hard labor just to make sure nobody who sounds or looks different receives any kind of benefit.
Not their children.... other peoples children. You know... the poors... those kids can work long hours for low pay and since they are poor, they will be stupid enough to be happy about it. The people voting for this do not need to worry about it affecting their kids... or think they dont....
the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force ~~their~~ other people's children
This country has, throughout its entire history, relied heavily on immigrants to make up the shortfalls in its labor force. A full stoppage of immigration is going to collapse the United States economy. Sooner than later.
Yes, if we remove our migrant population then we literally lose the majority of our food production workers. I think it'll also impact our construction work force, much of our factory workforce, our waitstaff, and various other jobs US citizens turn their noses up at - because those jobs literally would not sustain them and would destroy their bodies over time. Most of these jobs are sustained entirely by the desperation of immigrants trying to escape their prior circumstances.
Edit- added more detail in bold to make it clearer the the issue lies in how these jobs are conducted rather than being with US citizens.
jobs US citizens turn their noses up at
Jobs that typically don't pay enough for the cost to your body, health, and mental sanity. The overlords love the illegal immigrant stuff because it lets them put the thumbscrews to the workers, both in terms of downward pressure to the wages paid out, and in terms of desperation so the people without other options are forced to work in horrible conditions for terrible pay.
That's a fair critique, I made it sound more like US citizens are snobby for rejecting underpaid, dangerous jobs when in reality the US's base infrastructure still entirely relies on a form of slave labor to persist. I should've been more nuanced with my description.
Farms have historically used their children as free labor back when they were mostly family owned. That's why most schools here have a three month summer break. Now they want the factory farms to have that same perk, just with other people's children.
Whoa whoa whoa, teenager is already a bit old and commands more hourly
I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
The fact that "how it used to be" in your childhood produced a scumbag like you is a compelling argument to not let people's childhoods be like that anymore.
"I was beaten as a child and I ended up fine" says man who beats children.
I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
Also, this is complete and utter bullshit. I'm older than Ron boy, and child labor laws predate me. The folks picking crops in the fields in the 80's and 90's were the same immigrants that are (or were, I guess) doing it today. And anyone who attended Yale almost certainly wasn't out picking crops as a kid. Like most members of the GOP, he has zero attachment to reality.
Do they even purify the drinking water in Florida? .... or are people there just this stupid?
Like from the toilet?
This one goes in the mouth and this one... No, wait
Your kids are starving. Carl's Jr. believes no child should go hungry. You are an unfit mother. Your children will be placed in the custody of Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr... "Fuck You, I'm Eating."
Large population of boomers with a lifetime of lead poisoning, and they vote.
Not surprising. They didn't plan ahead whatsoever and thought "it'll all work out" as if Conservative promises held more weight than the hot air required to speak them.
what's the news here? They are basically using the same arguments the US used to not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Minors being the parents property is still an almost uncontroversial position in the US even if people don't phrase it like that.
See also: the troubled teen industry. Ir parenting is too much work, you can send your kid to torture school.
lol do American politicians seriously try to frame child labor laws as taking away parents rights?
When I was a kid, my mom was outraged that somebody made the statement, "children aren't their parent's property."
So, yeah
Capitalist rule: If you can't exploit people, just find people who are more exploitable.
Newsweek states on their own website that this article is unfairly leaning left. What a strange editorial decision.
Governor Ron DeSantis said during a panel discussion in March: "Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when, you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff? … What's wrong with expecting our young people to be working part-time now? I mean, that's how it used to be when I was growing up."
And a lot of things were different for your great-great-grandparents, and yet here you are not living as they did, you cheesedick dumbfuck.
Next step: to the jails and concentration camps for slave labor.
You should pay more attention because we've already been doing that this whole time.
Good thing the north left a loophole in the constitution after the civil war just for a situation like this.
Why did the children keep falling apart? Were they made of wet cardboard?
The front fell off
There's I think a dollop on the brassero program that details a past program where they'd ship high schoolers to farms for the summer in an attempt to reduce migratory workers. The program failed immediately. Conservatives are insane in the literal definition of the word.