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[–] h14h@midwest.social 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This kind of gatekeeping and elitism is bad for Lemmy and for FOSS.

It makes this community a less welcoming place and leaves new folks with a bad first impression. Much better to be welcoming and let people learn/see the benefits of FOSS at their own pace.

[–] dzonc@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'd given up on lemmy because every so I had tried was unfinished and unpolished. I tried sync and finally felt like the user experience wasn't getting in the way of content.

I'd love to support foss, if a genuinely comparable experience existed.

I'm glad to say that sync has revived my interest in lemmy.

[–] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

You should check out Thunder, even if you gave it a try at some point - it's super polished and it's gotten even better week after week. In my opinion it has the best compact mode of all the lemmy clients, as long as you don't mind swipe actions!

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[–] Zalack@startrek.website 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

IMO FOSS has really great offerings when it comes to libraries or other highly technical code.

But something about either the community or incentive structure results in sub-par UI/UX. Obviously not a rule, but definitely a trend I've noticed.

[–] Meloku@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Don't forget the community's reaction to comments like yours, why down vote him if he's stating the obvious? FOSS projects often focus so much on technical features because everyone wants to flex their code-fu, but nobody gives enough time to UI/UX. Just look at pretty much every Lemmy web frontend, fugly webpages with early 2000s look-and-feel, usually slow and/or buggy, and with little to no user feedback.

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[–] penfore@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's been one year of this conversation, but I just found it now.

Sync has also made me use Lemmy more often, but I was still missing a good web environment until recently when I started using photon. It is the best web experience I had using Lemmy and now I'm using as a progressive web app.

Photon repository here! Give it a star or start contributing to it.

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[–] DigitalPortkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why I unsubscribed from the Android community. I love Android, I use nothing but Linux at home and really appreciate open source software.

But the FOSS...enthusiasm is starting to border on zealotry. It's getting really unpleasant.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Try to tell the Linux users on here that you prefer to use Windows...

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[–] jerieljan@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I don't get the point of this.

Since when did Sync masquerade itself as FOSS?

Just use whatever you want. Isn't that why we're all here?

Is the Sync noise getting to you? Just ignore it. It's natural since the app just opened up and there were a significant amount of Reddit refugees that badly wanted their app back.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 years ago

I think it's more the Lemmy userbase having different expectations than that of the Reddit userbase, with Lemmy being such a shift from Reddit.

[–] drbi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I agree. SYNC will bring tons of reddit users to lemmy. I for one welcome that change.

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[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Sync is just so much more polished and feature-rich than all of these already... It's exactly like how it was when it was for reddit, and it's just one dev! I don't mind at all paying for a fantastic app.

You guys are taking the justified corpo hate and extending it to talented individual devs just making a living.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FOSS isn't about "corpo hate". It's about freedom. There's a philosophy behind it. You can, of course, disagree with it, but I think you should know what you're disagreeing with.

If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users. With proprietary software, there is always some entity, the developer or “owner” of the program, that controls the program—and through it, exercises power over its users. A nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm talking about the community. A large part of the community absolutely is about gate-keeping and hating on corporations... and now devs too apparently.

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[–] SaddieTheMad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I am disliking this sentiment. I am on the Fediverse because Sync's developer and many others were betrayed by Reddit and I wanted to show solidarity and to 'punish' Reddit by leaving. The Fediverse's values are admirable, but I do not share them all. I believe in supporting good projects, even some that are private if they don't pose a risk of destroying something bigger, and Sync is a good project that can be easily abandoned without consequences if something goes wrong.

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If apps were girls:

I was always in love with Sync. But life happened and we had to go different ways for non-romantic reasons. Some fucker called Spez, long story...

Eventually I met Voyager and she was great. Any user would be lucky to have her. But Sync was always the one that got away. Everyday I looked at Voyager and thought she was awesome but I was always holding a candle for Sync. But Sync was gone and I had to move on. But I could never really move on.

But life happened again and Sync was coming back. I had committed to Voyager but, as great as she was, I always thought how she came short of Sync. Sync came back and she was as stunning as I remembered. I couldn't stay with Voyager. I'm sorry Voyager. You're an awesome girl but I was pretty much just using you since I couldn't have Sync.

I'm a user Voyager, I make no excuses. There, there...

[–] amoretpax199@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I ditched Voyager the moment Sync came back.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for long i thought Voyager had performance issues but in fact it's my instance's fault

[–] covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Instance hosted voyager webapp?

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Paid software absolutely has a place in the world. Evil companies producing evil software designed to build a monopoly and lock out FOSS apps do not. I don't think Sync falls into the latter and I'm happy they've made the choice to be able to eat.

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah the audacity to charge money for dev time if they so choose :| wild. Something free market of ideas something

[–] Wildf1re@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I am so happy to finally have Sync again. Was always my most used app before the API death on Reddit. Always happy to support LJ.

[–] Alphamars@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I have used almost all the Lemmy apps from sync, boost, eternity, connect, Voyager, thunder, raccoon and summit. But I feel I prefer an ad free experience and from all these I just mentioned, I believe eternity meets my requirements. I don't understand the smoothness people are talking about because almost all the apps are smooth to you and be customized to fit your needs.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] mrginger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Love Memmy. It just works so good.

[–] heero_youi@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Memmy is literally the reason I opted into the fediverse, such a beautiful UX/UI in this app! It feels like a true successor to Apollo.

[–] Matt_Shatt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Memmy gang!

[–] MKBandit@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sync is by far the most polished. Everyone acting this is some major company. It's literally one dude.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It would be nice if Sync could like....allow you to post. 🤷‍♂️

[–] DisturbedAle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] FireworkFuse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh nooooooo someone made a familiar and easy to use app to help people get used to this new ecosystem that can only thrive if people actually show up and use it. What a real shame.

Are we really being this petty already?

[–] uSirPatrick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The gatekeeping is so fucked up

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