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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

How long before that extends to PCs and non-Windows OSes are blocked? Also, add non-Chrome browsers to that as well (that includes Edge, Chromium, Brave, etc. as well as Firefox and its forks).

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1mau7yl/eu_age_verification_app_to_ban_any_android_system/

[–] carrylex@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

European Digital identity

looks inside:

Hosted on GitHub in the US 👏

[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That's ironic

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 83 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is the EU licking america's asshole?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

'Cos it's been turning (far-)right as well in the last few years.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Which is why Europeans shouldn't be too eager to laugh about the US being a fascist hellhole. It could happen there again if they're not vigilant.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Dude, I keep telling my possibly AfD voting cousin we're just a few years behind the US if things continue as they do. Our politicians aren't better people, they're just sneakier for now.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

The way that the EU has been bending over for Trump is worrying.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No one is laughing... We're horrified how the people who have been screaming "freedom" and being obnoxious about how much more free they are than anyone else in the entire universe, seem to love getting enslaved while being obnoxious about how cool it is to be enslaved.

Europe has its problems. We've had them for generations, and right now they're getting worse. But at least we have a culture of fighting back, something americans don't.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

But at least we have a culture of fighting back, something americans don’t.

Talk is cheap. Prove it in the coming years. I really hope you're right, because I want SOMEWHERE to not be either a coporate fascist hellholle or a collapsed country in the future..

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 145 points 1 day ago (8 children)

What's going on with Europe lately? You all really want GOOGLE of all mega corps in control of your identity?

You're going the opposite way, it should be your right to install an alternate OS on your phone. If anything they should be banning Google licensed Android.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

We dont want it. VdL is one of the most corrupt people in policits and unfortunately has a lot of influence

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its not the populace, our politicians just like in the US have gone rogue. People are voting for the nutters due to anti immigration propaganda and so increasingly getting far right. Its happening across the entire western world and its bad news for everyone.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Except this isn't even the right wing nutters doing it. These are mainstream politicians executing their power grabbing neolib agenda, with very little democratic oversight or public debate.

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[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 36 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I just wanted the EU to fork lineageOS and provide it as an alternative in major chains.

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

They get their tech advice for laws from big tech.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Well, I hope they'll pay for my "EU age verification" phone, since my own won't work. I'll gladly buy one and not use it either.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so if I use graphene os then I can't look at porn in the eu

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait till they put up a EU Great Firewall and ban VPNs

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

While this will happen eventually, and circumvention takes skills, it is fundamentally possible, for motivated individuals.

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 1 day ago (15 children)

What is it with everyone being obsessed with porn censorship suddenly? Why is this a trend?

At first I thought it's about control and data gathering, but this seems like too much of a genuine attempt at such a system. Why is the government so obsessed with parenting and nannying the citizens?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 7 hours ago

It's not about porn. It's about tracking your every move online.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Most western governments look at the ability of some of the more authoritarian places ability to just snap there fingers and make the entire internet go away with great envy.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • Govt. want to control access to everything
  • People are not too happy about this
  • Govt. say "to protect children, you have to install this app, under these conditions"
  • You want to protect childrens, so you do so
  • Govt. say "to protect this or that, we have to impose approved gates on many websites, based on the app you installed before"
  • You want to protect this or that, so you accept it
  • Govt. say "fuck you, you whatever is not in line with the fucking biggot at the helm of your country/federation/whatever, now we know what you do, we control what's allowed, and anything to get around the blocks is illegal and will land you in jail. Fuck you again, fucker."
  • You're a happy little plant in a pot.

Basically, it's not about porn. It's not about protecting kids. It's not about helping "victims of abuse". If anything, it's putting all these in more danger, along with everyone else.

[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"protect children"

  • actively defending child rape
  • calls vaccines poison
  • calls prenatal care and school lunch subsidy woke
  • spends billions bombing brown children
[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 hours ago

If hypocrisy was poisonous we wouldn't have these problems

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In addition to the other answers, I want to add that the anti-porn stuff gives them the reason they need to force you into a more monitored environment. In which, everything you do is tracked. Your instinct is right imo. They want Google monitoring your mobile device as the primary piece. It's legislative market capture and fascism at the same time. No one company has to have all the info on you, but in forcing you to confirm yourself they make it so half a dozen can report on you if your habits trigger something. Half the technology is already in place as it's been built under the guise of better ad targeting.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Fascism is making a comeback, and everyone's dumb enough to believe it's an America problem, instead of a global oligarchy, class war, problem.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The legal precedent for gaining the ability to ban content under the guise of preventing the dissemination of "obscenity" allows the future banning of "obscene" political opinions and "obscene" dissent.

Once the "obscene" political content is banned, the language will change to "offensive".

After "offensive" content is banned, then the language will change to "inappropriate".

After "inappropriate", the language will change to "oppositional".

If you believe this is a "slippery slope" fallacy, then as a counterpoint, I would refer to the actual history of the term "politically correct":

In the early-to-mid 20th century, the phrase politically correct was used to describe strict adherence to a range of ideological orthodoxies within politics. In 1934, The New York Times reported that Nazi Germany was granting reporting permits "only to pure 'Aryans' whose opinions are politically correct".[5]

The term political correctness first appeared in Marxist–Leninist vocabulary following the Russian Revolution of 1917. At that time, it was used to describe strict adherence to the policies and principles of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, that is, the party line.[24] Later in the United States, the phrase came to be associated with accusations of dogmatism in debates between communists and socialists. According to American educator Herbert Kohl, writing about debates in New York in the late 1940s and early 1950s.

The term "politically correct" was used disparagingly, to refer to someone whose loyalty to the CP line overrode compassion, and led to bad politics. It was used by Socialists against Communists, and was meant to separate out Socialists who believed in egalitarian moral ideas from dogmatic Communists who would advocate and defend party positions regardless of their moral substance.

— "Uncommon Differences", The Lion and the Unicorn[4]

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're right but the example you gave seems to illustrate a different effect that's almost opposite — let me explain.

The phrase "politically correct" is language which meant something very specific, that was then hijacked by the far-right into the culture war where its meaning could be hollowed out/watered down to just mean basically "polite", then used interchangeably in a motte-and-bailey style between the two meanings whenever useful, basically a weaponized fallacy designed to scare and confuse people — and you know that's exactly what it's doing by because no right-winger can define what this boogeyman really means. This has been done before with things like: Critical Race Theory, DEI, cancel culture, woke, cultural Marxism, cultural bolshevism/judeo bolshevism (if you go back far enough), "Great Replacement", "illegals", the list goes on.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I see your point. I should've limited my citation to the phrase's authoritarian origins from the early 20th century.

To clarify, the slippery slope towards "political correctness" I wanted to describe is a sort of corporate techno-feudalist language bereft of any real political philosophy or moral epistemology. It is the language of LinkedIn, the "angel investor class", financiers, cavalier buzzwords, sweeping overgeneralizations, and hyperbole. Yet, fundamentally, it will aim to erase any class awareness, empiricism, or contempt for arbitrary authority. The idea is to impose an avaricious financial-might-makes-right for whatever-we-believe-right-now way of thinking in every human being.

What I want to convey is that there is an unspoken effort by authoritarians of the so-called "left" and "right" who unapologetically yearn for the hybridization of both Huxley's A Brave New World and Orwell's 1984 dystopian models, sometimes loudly proclaimed and other times subconsciously suggested.

These are my opinions and not meant as gospel.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 237 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Please don't link to Reddit. Context below:

The EU is currently developing a whitelabel app to perform privacy-preserving (at least in theory) age verification to be adopted and personalized in the coming months by member states. The app is open source and available here: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui.

Problem is, the app is planning to include remote attestation feature to verify the integrity of the app: https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui?tab=readme-ov-file#disclaimer. This is supposed to provide assurance to the age verification service that the app being used is authentic and running on a genuine operating system. Genuine in the case of Android means:

  • The operating system was licensed by Google

  • The app was downloaded from the Play Store (thus requiring a Google account)

  • Device security checks have passed

While there is value to verify device security, this strongly ties the app to many Google properties and services, because those checks won't pass on an aftermarket Android OS, even those which increase security significantly like GrapheneOS, because the app plans to use Google "Play Integrity", which only allows Google licensed systems instead of the standard Android attestation feature to verify systems.

This also means that even though you can compile the app, you won't be able to use it, because it won't come from the Play Store and thus the age verification service will reject it.

The issue has been raised here https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/10 but no response from team members as of now.

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Yeah no. Requiring anything Google for something as basic as this violates the GDPR. If they go through with this, it's one legal case until they have to revise it.

Edit: German eID works on any Android btw., flawless actually. I sure hope I can use that for verification

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[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 139 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Fuck the play integrity API, Play Store and Google play services

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