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[–] Tischkante@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

[–] niisyth@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It's truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I'm contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don't really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

The madlads really did it.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah gamers are 95% good to switch.

Gamers and microshit have incompetiable values.

[–] polle@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] Piers@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They'll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

"option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

[–] DreamySweet@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They always knew, they just didn't care.

[–] giant_smeeg@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it's like:

  • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
  • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
  • LOCATION?
  • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don't game on my laptop and most of it's use is browser, plex and emails...

[–] Leminator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Let's cut the crap: it's not that they "realized" nobody wants it -- it's that they've come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

[–] Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

Still no Microsoft edge though...

[–] simdlauper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No longer providing a browser with a consumer operating system is a bad idea. How would you install another browser?

They just need to stop plugging and advertising it so relentlessly.

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The package manag- oh it's windows right

[–] xill47@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation).

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE

[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time.

[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— ~~Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned.~~

I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow....

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Once I cared about preinstalled bloatware. As long as it is inactive and small I stopped caring. The named apps together aren't even 200MByte.