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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 261 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Gotta hand it to the fossil fuels industry, they got what they wanted and their propaganda worked.

And now Americans have a janky grid, slower / more expensive transportation, and bigger power bills.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

they got what they wanted and their propaganda worked

So far.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 133 points 1 week ago (3 children)

At least we are free*

*Terms and conditions apply

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 111 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  1. Be rich
  2. Be white
  3. Be male
  4. Be "Christian"
  5. Be straight
  6. just kidding be rich
[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The last ones the one that matters most but their supporters can’t read a list that long in one sitting.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 99 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Turns out stubborn contrarianism and anti-science bias are not viable philosophical foundations for progress; what a surprise.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But knowing what's real and what's bullshit is an absolutely essential prerequisite for progress.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Exactly my point, I wouldn't trust progress to the country that elected a mentally challenged pedophile twice.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

But for a few fleeting moments we did create a lot of value for the shareholders. Totally worth it to flush it all down the drain.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (4 children)

renowned expert in Chinese technology and founder of the media company Tech Buzz China, [Rui Ma]

Is the person they’re talking about who is “stunned” at how super double awesome China is at powering AI.

Ffffffffffffffuck this.

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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 83 points 1 week ago (21 children)

The race to have the magic box that tells you lies that you want to hear while also consuming incredible amounts of resources...why is this a race again?

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah. Kind of amazing that for all of their America first bullshit rhetoric, Republicans have consistently and routinely neglected our infrastructure to focus time and money on gays, immigrants, and giving out blowies to billionaires

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Look at other corrupt governments and you can see some even more startlingly disfunctional infrastructure.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Conservatism is collapsing into irrelevance as a long term commitment.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Close. Conservatism is collapsing the United States of America into irrelevance.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I don't really give a shit about the AI race and I genuinely hope that we lose it, because I feel like being a winner in that "industry" is inherently unsustainable.

The AI hype is so infuriatingly frustrating.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Further, fear mongering about China's data center/powergrid infrastructure superiority is also the PERFECT excuse techbros need to rationalize building data centers in parts of the US that are in desperate shortage of water for human beings and with precarious electrical grids that are ready to fail in the middle of the next heatwave.

The US is essentially in a second Civil War and this will be one of the main methods in which people are killed, i.e. purposefully setting up the conditions for people to die in a heat wave and have no water so they are desperate... and the only way people in the US are going to stomach it is if they have been truly convinced they have to accept these brutal conditions "because we are hopelessly behind China and we can't afford to stop building data centers!!".

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

AI is not the panacea they're making it out to be. This article is attempting to influence readers to support American AI business models to 'complete' with China. Except that AI doesn't make my job easier and is very bad for the environment.

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 week ago (31 children)

The first country to adopt LLMs for everything is the one that will collapse first. This is a race where the winners never start and at best stop before they reach the end.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Don’t worry. They’ll just ask AI about the grid and it will tell them how great it is.

Edit: or it’ll say FEED ME MORE!

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good, fuck the AI industry, we can’t even go to the doctor over here

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That level of cushion is unthinkable in the United States, where regional grids

Yeah, capitalism will resolve everything by being greedy. Electricity is not and will never be a merchandise. It's a basic human need and a natural state monopoly.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

can't use power to make everyone use electric cars need power for "AI"

Nice job you jabroonies you did it you lost everything. This is the slow descent of America and it the boomers fault.

My father in law is convinced theres some guy in a garage that's gonna invent the next big invention, but hey guess what it takes MONEY that regular joe schmoes dont have!!

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So, a few months ago China launched Deepseek and the narrative on US media was all "the fact they didn't have access to the latest Nvidia GPUs forced them to get creative and develop a model that is more efficient and cheaper".

Now the US is getting behind on "AI wars" because China has more energy for huge data centers?

How about the US get creative and develop LLMs that are actually useful and can work without sucking Gigafucks of electricity?

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (4 children)

china has also been investing in solar for decades since the us gave up on it and became the leader

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enough talk already i wish the us empire would just hurry up and actually collapse.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

we considered attacking you, but couldn't think of a way to ruín anything worse than you already had. Every idea we came up with, you had already done, but worse. I spent two years writing software to take down the grid in texas, and another two getting it into your systems. Then you just did it all manually, and some nazi asshole shot the infected substation until it blew up a month later! Fuck you, i liked this job. I went to college for this shit. You have ruined me. What the fuck am i gonna do now?

-some chinese saboteur

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