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Anyone know if this is true or not?

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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 37 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Your title is misleading & false. The article is technically correct, but clunky.

Consider the title, Steam's Content Removal Could Be A Wider Consequence Of Project 2025. The article misspells Russell's name frequently. "Part of Vought and Project 2025's plans are to remove Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA)". So the Steam content removal...is a consequence. Who is dishing out the consequences?

Louis Rossmann will tell you, it's Collective Shout. Collective Shout has no relation to Russell Vought...or even America. It's a ragtag group of 1067 Australian fuckheads that complained to Mastercard, Visa who then put pressure on Steam. And yes. This was enabled thanks to Russell Vought & removal of Section 230 of the CDA.

Russell Vought isn't a good guy by any means, but this specifically was done by Collective Shout's 1067 Aussies bitching to American credit card companies & American businesses, threatening them & trying to dictate what they can sell to Americans. It's...truly infuriating. I don't go to their mom's place of work & smack the dick out of her mouth, I don't write them emails & tell them how to run Australia. So kindly return the favor, don't fuck with the US. Like what the hell.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not entirely surprising if true.

Project 2025 goal is to spread their backwards ideology across the globe. They want to see the world burn.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They think being cruel to minorities and women will make their lives better. Cause they're idiots. Or naive. Or hateful. Probably all of those, but that's speculation.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

they dont want to make anyones lives better except their own. Pieces of shit like those have been bitter about any improvement to womens rights because they had it good being able to abuse women and want it back. Also minorities are good scapegoat for any problems they cause, so their rights have to go too or the whole thing collapses eventually as people might catch on who is really to blame.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I mean, I kind of guessed this way back when Collective Shout pushed their action.

I actually had a comment removed here on Lemmy when I brought up how this was "US politics/elections affecting your life as gamers", because the mods insisted it was purely an Australian action, and my comment was off-topic. But we live in a global online world. There's no way that US politics wouldn't have a huge effect on this type of censorship.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There’s no way that US politics wouldn’t have a huge effect on this type of censorship.

I've been called a fearmonger also for trying to tell apathetic gamers who "hate politics" that if they don't get involved they're going to start losing their own goddamn games.

I have linked the "Conservapedia" articles on video games all over reddit until they banned me. I have tried to tell people that voting for Trump or supporting his ideals even distantly isn't going to "take the woke out of your games" that it will actually crush your gaming entirely, because... and I can't stress this enough, Conservatives HATE GAMING. Not the online chuds and 4channers who hate women, they're barely even conservatives... they're fodder for the online fights. But the old-guard and middle-class conservatives who get marching orders from churches and grifters, the ones who have all the actual money on the right. They want to see an end to "distractions" and fiction and fantasy and everything that isn't some kind of sanitized, un-nuanced devotion to Dear Leader and his United States of White Jesus.

Fiction has been an enemy of power since writing began, and games are just another kind of fiction that lets people stretch their imagination. This is why it's dangerous, this is why they want to see it ended.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 0 points 2 hours ago

Fiction has been an enemy of power since writing began

x for doubt

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Conservatives HATE GAMING. Not the online chuds and 4channers who hate women, they're barely even conservatives...

They sure sound like conservatives to me.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

I mean, they are in the moment that they're mad that someone made a black female with realistic proportions as a selectable character... but they largely don't have principles or values at all, they're a slime-mold that fits into whatever social trend is easy to latch onto right now so they can share emotional connection with their peers.

What happened is we ignored them and people like Steve Bannon and Russians and other agents of regression saw them as a ripe target for exploitation and manipulation. We have a massive rise in things like incels and anti-woke young men, but it's largely manufactured. These are mostly young people who are unhappy, alone and they've been nudged towards easy-to-digest memes and talking points that this is the fault of unattractive feminists who want to take their games away.

This isn't "conservatism" as much as reactionary attitudes and social isolation. If we were able to get a foot in the door faster and have a concerted effort to show them that their issues are largely socio-economic and mental-health related, we would have made a lot more progress a lot sooner. Source: I used to do just that and mentored/coached lonely young guys for years, they're staggeringly easy to turn if you make the effort and are social and can listen to people.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Terminology is confusing. Lowercase-c conservatives want to keep the status quo as it is. But fact is that e.g. in the USA, legal access to abortion has been the status quo for 50 years.

So nobody can say that the status quo has been anything but that in the US. So uppercase-C “Conservative” just means “reactionary” now, because that's what it is to roll back a 50 year old right.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is as it always was: Even if you have no interest in politics, the politics are interested in you.

Ordinary people should adopt politics as a hobby, if only to have agency about which type of politics thrives or dies. I would much prefer sex-positive media to proliferate over sex negative, because the latter will take away my hentai games and manga. Furries, queers, and genuine perverts, all of them should have a shared interest of putting conservative values into a pine box, with a bit of stake and garlic.

Furries, queers, and genuine perverts, all of them should have a shared interest of putting conservative values into a pine box, with a bit of stake and garlic.

And facing towards the earth with their head decapitated and placed between their legs. Kudos in advance if you know what that means.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No matter how you measure it, global sexually repressive puritanism always traces back to the US.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

There are a lot of people that are capable of suppressing women without the US just fine. Just have a quick look at the Arabic peninsula, or the Taliban.

Western securely repressive puritanism, maybe.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is Iran in the 1970s, before the US started providing weapons, training, and funding to groups like literally the Taliban.

[–] Call_Me_Maple@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow, I've never seen this before. I don't mean this in a derogatory way or anything, but they look like people.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

It's why iran has so many educated women and is weirdly technologically powerful for a theocratic regime. Iran in the 70s was modern. Inshallah the people of iran will be freed from the tyranny of theocracy.

But yeah, iran is what should scare you the most because their collapse was fast and unexpected.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They still are, they're just people that are repressed by a theocracy now.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nah, we funded both Iran and the Taliban. We even elected a guy who illegally funneled weapon sales to Iran in order to take that money and give it to Nicaraguan death squads. Arguably, without US support, neither gets the critical mass it needs to effect regime change or become anything more than an upstart.

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[–] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

The women in the middle east weren't nearly as suppressed before the US got involved

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[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (29 children)

Calling it now: What we currently know as “Project 2025” will reveal itself to be the largest conspiracy of this millenium. The push for internet ID verification "to protect the kids" in UK, US, Canada, EU, Australia is 100% a collective effort. Fuck this timeline, we will not comply!

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A conspiracy implies they made an attempt to hide it.

I've been showing people this shit on social media and reddit for years now and nobody cared. I was called a fearmonger and hyped up "shrill" leftist, stirring up controversy over unrealistic possibilities, etc. etc.

Fuck all ya'll, I know some of you are out there reading all this, some of the same head-buried-in-the-sand lazy fuckers who tried to dismiss real warnings about real things because you didn't want to be bothered to get involved or change your vote.

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The English speaking world should be isolated. Rupert Murdoch made it sick.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

a lot of people knew this already, yes

[–] veebee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

Freedoms slowly get taken away.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 374 points 1 day ago (47 children)

these people have been planning on this for lot longer than a year. christians have been trying to ban video games for decades. the only reason this group hasn't come after more games is because they know they don't yet have enough politicians behind them to manage it.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not surprised. stripe, PayPal, visa and Mastercard wouldn't just give up to millions of dollars in fees just because a small Australian group asked for it

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