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[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Also known as profiling.

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Crime by statistical association

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

So Reddit is the scumbag steve.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago

Which means the powers-that-be have been using it for years already. Remember when people called us paranoid for believing in Echelon in the '80s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Spez will fuck with Reddit's userbase and make the platform absolute bullshit to use, yet 90% of redditors will still keep sucking his dick over and over again.

"LeMmY iS tOo HaRd To UsE!! wTf Is An InStAnCe???"

[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

If my dumb ass figured it out, anyone should be able to switch.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think a lot of people on reddit forget that it's a forum. They see reddit as this special thing, when in fact it's not. My best description to people about Lemmy is it's a bunch of reddits that all can see eachother and none are owned by some corporation looking to harvest your info. It's like reddit, but better. As for which instance? Roll a dice and pick one, it doesn't matter all that much. I'm on lemmy.world and I don't even know half the time I just surf around. Other than that anything that makes reddit better then Lemmy is purely due to the fact it has a larger and longer established user base.

[–] Doorknob@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

I just try to describe it like email. "You've got your gmails and your outlooks and your yahoos and whatnot, you pick one you like, but they're all email and it won't stop you seeing emails from outlook guys if you're a gmail guy."

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 22 hours ago

I think that on the first wave of users when we had 200k active users Lemmy was in a very different state in terms of usabilities. So much has improved and if we get another event like that I'm sure we will retain way more users.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

The instance matters: some will ban you if you cite too many credible articles which bring up uncomfortable truths.

No matter what one's stance is on a political subject, there will be some uncomfortable truths. Unlike a Hollywood hero movie.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That's a useless summary that describes 99% of reddit and lemmy users

No wonder I got banned.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 170 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is a great example of how profiles on all of us are going to be made by governments and corporations unless we take privacy seriously.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

*Have been made long ago and are being constantly updated.

Snowden already warned us about this over a DECADE ago. Their scopes and powers will have increased exponentially. And that was under 'trustworthy' administration. I guarantee there's a type of system in place that flags people before they do anything, just on pattern recognition alone. Of course, they can't use that system as a legal basis for anything, so they don't and use parallel constructions instead.

Anyone who thinks "this is coming" hasn't been paying attention. We're already there and beyond.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I find the funniest shit ever is how Snowden uncovered the biggest shit show and nothing happened. Probably the starting event for me losing all hope in this pathetic species I now call Homo Merda.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if being made aware of the extensive NSA spying actually had a suppressing effect on taking action itself. It was kinda scary. Overwhelming. "Best not to think about it" kind of stuff.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I already assumed that all project 2025 purges to date have been done with input from statistical modeling, in a way that removes far more "liberals" who might refuse orders, and retains as many MAGA/fascist bootlickers as possible.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

It was well over a decade ago that a store figured out a teen was pregnant. The father was livid they were advertising pregnancy stuff to her. He ate his words.

[–] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Corporations have been already making profiles of various types for a while now in the form of adtech, social media, data brokers, people search websites, credit scores, devices and services that harvest sensitive and intimate data (e.g. mobile phone apps, watching habits from smart TVs, driving data from cars).

Our society has been set up for mass surveillance in a thousand different ways as a form of social control and dominance by those who wield power.

It's time people realize that privacy is a right instead of normalizing abuses of consent.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Yep.

And if anyone doubts this, 15 years ago I had made a tool that created these types of profiles as a proof of concept.

I had scraped tons of subreddits, then you could pass in a user and based on both their subreddits and key words would categorize users across a few axes. That was just using naïve bayes, but worked pretty well.

The AI is just much much better at natural language processing to pull out more detailed info about patterns.

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[–] fluxixx@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

this is absolutely fucking terrifying

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We (smart people) knew this was the end result of ai and why the far right and ccorporations love it. But holy fucking shit this is dangerous and people should be terrified of this. Stop using these platforms (I know it doesn't matter the platform, we're all fucked, but still)

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it goes beyond that, stop living an online life is a better advice. Use the internet to get info, not to submit info.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My concern is that Reddit can sell their profiling algorithm to other companies, who then can federate with Lemmy, mastodon, etc. to build profiles against users.

It's getting to the point where I may need to go back to cycling usernames every few years.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

It's getting to the point where I may need to go back to cycling usernames every few years.

You should definitely do that anyways, you never know when some crazy is going to try and dox you. Changing usernames won’t really protect you from advertisers though, software will link the two identities together.

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

That's probably a massive GDPR violation. Automated processing of extra sensitive data like political beliefs and religion is not outright forbidden but it's subject to extra protections.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have there been any enforcement actions against big companies yet?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Meta got a fine of over a billion euros. Google got a bunch of smaller fines, but it's probably way above everyone else in terms of fines. Microsoft got half a billion. Even Apple got an 8 million euro fine, but that was more a tap in the wrist to make them think twice about some data collection.

And besides this, large companies are constantly in contact with the authorities and in smaller violations the general policy is to give a warning and let companies stop the illegal data processing voluntarily.

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 day ago

All of them are a slap on a wrist, even Meta

https://proton.me/tech-fines-tracker

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sadly you consented to all of it

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GDPR article 9 (1) says you can't play algorithmic guess with people's religion or political opinions unless you gave express permission to the service provider to do it (i.e. it's not covered in the general GDPR boilerplate)

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Hard agree with this. Does Reddit even have lawyers, or are they just using ChatGPT? Google, Meta, and Tik Tok already paid PII misuse fines for less than this. everything listed is part of the GDPR extended PII list.

Unrelated question: How do I short reddit stock?

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago

GDPR prevents using underhanded tactics to assume consent for this type of use.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 1 day ago

Less and less is the user's identity belonging to the user.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (10 children)
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[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing we're not on reddit

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

How exactly is it a good thing in this particular case? All this information is only more accessible on Lemmy.

[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

It’s easier to use a pseudonym on Lemmy.

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every now and then I've been tempted to make a Reddit account to post in some subreddits but shit like this reminds me not to fucking do it.

You wanna know how you can avoid that temptation? Get yourself a nice little permaban. Worked for me.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just dont use Reddit already

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Is Lemmy somehow invulnerable to this? Can't it just be scraped the same way.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

100% it can, and worse yet, it can be scraped and analyzed like this by Meta, or Reddit, or your nearest fascist dictator.

But that's also pretty much the entire internet in any forum or social media platform, so although I don't like it, I figure that's more or less just part of using the internet.

To me it's much like the whole "There's no expectation of privacy in public."

I hope it doesn't take AI to figure out my attitudes when I regularly proclaim that there are no maga in my life more than required by various pre-existing obligation, Luigi Mangione will be remembered as a folk hero, Trump will one day be shown to be ALL through the Epstein files in all the worst ways (as will many Dems and they should all be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law), and most Democratic leadership is 100% owned by the oligarchy too, as evidenced by things such as their support of Israeli genocide and how much more urgently they are fighting Mamdani than they are Trump in many cases.

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