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This is awful. One of my favorite differences between Android and iOS, as both a user AND developer is sideloading.
The closer google gets to apple, the more similar they become. Except apples shit generally all works well together. Knock off air tags, chromecast, audio groups, and so many other things are riddled with bugs and never fixed.
If you make android the same as iOS, I might as well switch.
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Verify my balls, Google.
if you've ever sent a nude, they probably can.
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Hasn’t Apple been losing in court across the world for doing exactly this?
No, it's nothing like what Apple's been doing.
Apple has been losing in court about everyone needs to give them money anytime anything makes any money on iOS, or even thinking absolutely allowing others to install anything beyond their App Store.
This is Google demanding every app that can be installed on Android must be signed by them, and the only cost is registering with them your name and address, possibly verified by government ID. (And quite possible doxxing you at the same time as they already do on the Play Store....)
These are very different, and unlike Apple, will more likely be applauded by numerous world governments in the current "anything a child can even remotely even know about" must have its users be checked to make sure they are "allowed to".
Let Google know what you think about this: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN3UQeNspQsZCO2ITkdzMxv81rJDEGGjO-UIDDY28Rz_GEVA/viewform
Who organized this form? Is there something official to make it look like it's not just signing me up for spam?
A valid question.
It's the official survey form from the Android Developer page on the matter: https://developer.android.com/developer-verification/guides
It really is past time we saw serious work on a mobile flavor of Linux. Not AOSP, not anything whatsoever downstream of Google, but a regular Linux distro with a mobile friendly DTE.
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How are they going to enforce this? Is side loading getting some extra signing step only Google can provide?
I shouldn't need to go through Google at all to release an Android app if it's not on their store. This is bullshit
Any device with Google Play services will enforce this. Any device that does not have Google Apps and services will not enforce this.
In this case, China actually has a leg up over the West because they haven't had Google Play services for a long time.
China is pushing in the same direction. The government want to develop Harmony OS that is gonna have compatibility issues with .apk installs and they could design it in such a way to make VPNs unusable. China is a State Capitalist regime, they will learn all the tricks that the west is using and do their capitalism with an even more stronger grip.
China is not FOSS friendly. Remember how Reddit is keep nagging you to install their app and make an account. Well in China, a lot of their platform/services doesn't even have a desktop client, or even a web browser log-in. You can try visiting some of the mainland Chinese websites yourself. They force you to enter a phone number to sign up and some even require you to scan qr code with their phone app to log in to the website (meaning you're supposed to sign up in their phone app first, PC use is considered "secondary"). Almost everything requires an app on a smartphone.
Edit: P.S. Overseas Chinese Citizens need to download a government spyware app on their phone in order to submit an application to renew passports. I know because my father is a PRC citizen.
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In short, they make independent stores impossible?
Mostly; they just force themselves into the process for publishing each app and have an effective veto on apps. So yeah, no stores fully independent of Google.
... Didn't the EU JUST fine Apple half a billion euros over the same thing?
and just like that google expands their walled garden and becomes apple 2
remember when the internet was an open platform and computers were yours to run programs you wanted?
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Why am I using an Android device then? Also how would this even work with open source apps that people build from source?
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Fuck google, verify my ass motherfuckers
Guess I'm going back to a dumbphone next time because I'm NOT letting Google see what I'm downloading, I'd rather carry a laptop all day.
GrapheneOS works likea champ on my used Pixel 7 Pro, it was less than 100USD about 6m ago
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Didn't realize the device in my pocket was google's
"With software there are only two possibilities: either the users control the program or the program controls the users. If the program controls the users, and the developer controls the program, then the program is an instrument of unjust power."
- Richard M. Stallman
You are going to learn.
I guess it's time to switch to developing apps for Linux mobile distro
The only reason I like android is cuz I can make my own apks and use them without issue.
Damn, it feels like someone is treating a 1984 novel like an instruction...
If it starts for real, the freedom of Android is lost.
We need to sue them 1000 times and more before they can even start this.
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Fuck that's actually really bad
They're already starting to clamp down on sideloading. I use Aurora Store out of principle, but it's getting more and more common that apps will refuse to launch if not downloaded from the Play Store. I get the risk of sideloading maliciously modified banking apps or whatever, but surely you could just compare a checksum or something?
Fuck you
And here I thought I wouldn't root or flash my next phone.
devils.
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