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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 hours ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Incite further right wing rage?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago

"Fighting hortler will only make him more angry..."

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 21 points 4 hours ago

Because censorship of topical newsworthy events is antithetical to freedom. Sure first the censorship will start with "gruesome" but it won't stop there, let people opt out, but it shouldn't be scrubbed from existence.

[–] waldo_was_here@piefed.social 65 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Charlie has so many videos saying "release the Epstein files" that I'm suprise Lefty's aren't capitalizing on them. Plus so many others where he says things that can be clipped. Like think of the collecting rrrreeeeeeeeeee from these fucks if Lefty's were posting pro gun clips of him under all their fake empathy posts

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I am seeing a huge amount of that on Lemmy and Mastodon.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

Right, so the end result is what?

We're watching the world slip further and further into the opinion that Charlie Kirk was a good man. There's no resistance to anything they say anymore because we're all on Lemmy and mastodon where nobody but us are.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

No matter what Kirk is going to be saintwashed by the right. Don’t forget that they will always build their preferred reality around themselves. I get your frustration but it’s important to remember that nothing you say will ever change a rightists mind. God itself could appear in the sky and tell off every evil, self-centered, delusional rightist to their face and they would still find a way to ignore it. Speech doesn’t work on rightists. Logic doesn’t work on rightists. Hard evidence doesn’t work on rightists.

This is why all the leftists on Lemmy are calling for impactful forms of protest. Until we get in the streets and shut everything down and impact their lives and livelihoods and stock prices nobody is going to negotiate. Power is all they recognize, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure we don’t have any.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Leftists might try to capitalize on Epstein.

But liberals aren't leftists. The liberal establishment won't promote the Epstein story because liberals are also deeply implicated.

Similarly liberals collaborate with fascists. They're not going to be trolling them. They're going to be memorializing kirk and calling for "civility" or whatever the fuck. NPR did like a full day of Kirk memorialization.

So yes, libs are less than worthless. But that has nothing to do with leftism.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

I just want to say you're a problem. I view you the same way I view Charlie Kirk

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 40 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I hate when they delete stuff, like... do you want conspiracy theories to spread? Because that's how conspiracy theories spread.

[–] zrst@lemmy.cif.su 35 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It's all about controlling how people see the world.

If we're only exposed to "disney, safe for china" media, then that's all people will think the world consists of.

They (people richer than us) don't want us seeing the reality of guns, only their carefully curated fantasies.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah this is widely applied. From ag-gag laws that hide the brutality of animal torture/murder to the killing of journalists in palestine. ETC.

People in the imperial core are constantly shielded from the reality of their "culture".

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with this viscerally.

A lot of people are expressing sympathy for the people in the Kirk crowd, but honestly I think it might be a good thing for them — to see first hand what Kirk and the Republican rhetoric is actually advocating for. Maybe it'll snap them out of the fantasies they have of culling "undesirables".

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If they are mentally capable of making the connection between the things he advocated for, and those things happening directly to him.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

My guess: they'll use this as their latest example of the "violent left" without evidence, as is tradition

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

the problem is that due to the algorithmic nature of social media it ends up getting pushed to people who don't want to see it.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Links? I missed the whole thing

[–] CrazyHorse@lemmy.cafe 17 points 4 hours ago (3 children)
[–] Steve@startrek.website 3 points 2 hours ago

Directed by Quentin Tarantino

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago

I hadn't watched it till now.. yuck!

but probably something anyone that wants to talk about this should see

but it got me thinking, I think the shooter was aiming for his mouth and the drift made the shot hit a little lower

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, no desire to see it myself. I was on the fence about reporting a still shot I saw on IG. Don't suppress but don't advertise.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

It’s very gruesome. I was not prepared.

[–] source_of_truth@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

Meh. I guess I've watched too many Russians getting merked in Ukraine.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Which is odd you know? I thought "meh I've seen some sick shit" but nope. One minute he's a racist accelerationist bigot and the next moment he still is but his brain is clearly whack and blood is rushing down his neck.

Movies and videogames don't come remotely close to representing it accurately

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve even see other videos of people getting killed before, and they were not this bad. Not often; I’m not someone who generally seeks that stuff out. Maybe it’s because of the bright lighting, high clarity, and comparatively high resolution of this one, combined with a gunshot wound that had very gory and visible results.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think what gets people about this one is the large amount of blood that comes from severing a major artery like that and it funneling out through such a focused point followed by how quickly he reacts, goes into shock, then goes limp.

Most gore people get to see, even the real stuff, is much more initially destructive. So the blood goes everywhere all at once and there is very little time or ability to see the immediate reaction of the injured person.

For me, most of the worst stuff I've seen that is not tv/movie make believe that was the most unsettling had very little gore in the traditional sense. It was the reaction of the person that got injured that made it unsettling and the slow realization they make of what happened and is currently happening. There is a much more calm yet panicked tone to it than someone getting ran over by a tank or their head cut off by a terrorist.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 44 minutes ago

Kirk's killer seems to have used some large calibre weapon which probably made it look so particularly brutal and bloody.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Meh. Not that bad. Glad to see dude go.

Zios are murdering kds and their whole families every day. That's something that's actually gruesome.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip -3 points 49 minutes ago

So you believe that people should get murdered for expressing their opinions, got it.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's still up, in some places.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I found it on wikipedia of all places

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Why not? It seems like an appropriate place.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 42 minutes ago

They had a whole edit war about whether it should be included and locked the article.