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[–] Priyathium@lemmy.ml 71 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I did that.

And rightfully so, I was a 15 year old in a third world country with a beat up compaq computer to download movies overnight. I couldn't seed cuz my father would find out I wasted the internet.

Today, I can seed and have a 26TB hard drive, I preserve old movies in my native language (Telugu) and seed them.

Do we need people to learn about seeding and ratios? Definitely. But I believe in

Today's leechers are tomorrow's seeders.

And don't blame them.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds like you grew up and your hardware did too!

Not everyone is able to seed unfortunately. Here the downloading aspect although not allowed seeding is when you can receive fines.

Hence I cross seed everything to I2P.

Of course only Linux ISOs 😉

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

the second it says "Seeding"

Don't worry, it will stall at 99.9% forever

[–] sleen@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hate how relatable this is.

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[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 136 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Trying to keep a public torrent alive is hard work, but someone has to do it.
Back when I had VDSL and even ADSL, I'd try to hit 1.1 ratio because if everyone did that the risk of information being lost would be close to 0%. Nowadays with gigabit internet, all that prevents me from seeding is hard drive space, and 8 TB doesn't fill up quickly with how few good movies and series there are these days. I guess that's one way to stop piracy, just make fewer and worse series/movies.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 82 points 4 days ago (13 children)

"Good" is in the eye of the beholder. Have you considered that the quality hasn't changed much, but instead you've become more discerning as you age? I certainly have far less tolerance for the stupid shit I used to think was funny long ago.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I get that. I used to think The Big Bang Theory was funny
*shudder*

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Depends on the comparison. Better than sitting in silence, worse than touching grass.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 27 points 4 days ago

That was fun back in the day when movie studios blamed piracy for their movie performing badly, so someone checked and their movie was barely present or downloaded on the high seas.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 23 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Unfortunately BitTorrent clients are kinda messy and don't make it easy to maintain a long term seeding library. I've moved to qbittorrent which is a bit better than Deluge on that regard, but it's still not great.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 4 days ago (12 children)

just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

[–] Arnl@lemmy.zip 67 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but you still seed while you download

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 54 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Meta's legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don't expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual... Shit is fucked.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn't even seed back!?

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

JFC people, use protection

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 days ago (21 children)

I don’t know about you guys, but I set mine to stop seeding at a 2.0 ratio. Give more than you get. That’s the way I think it should be.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 days ago

True, unless you're the only one seeding a particular thing. It's good to keep media alive and available, especially obscure stuff.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

A better way is to just limit connections and upload speed and seed forever. If your total connections is like 25 and your max upload is like 100 KB/ps, it doesn't affect your internet or anything although you should use a VPN and stuff, and it helps to keep those files out there with a complete source for a long time.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

Valid, although I prefer the 24/7 seed to infinity method.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 68 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Personally I enjoy seeing the numbers go up. Looking at the current top ten by ratio according to my torrent client most of them are obscure things that I'm probably the only one seeding — but the number one spot, at a ratio of 565, goes to "Shrek (2001) [1080p]".

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Eh, mine's linuxmint-20-cinnamon-64bit

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

god i even hate pausing seeding for even an hour cause i'm like BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS IT???

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[–] yamamoon@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago

It'd be nice if we can have some kind of standard for torrents so we don't have a bunch of duplicates on our system.

For something like games, it just doesn't make sense to have the torrent and the install. It takes up so much space.

Portable installs are always best.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 59 points 4 days ago (23 children)

I have now a ratio of 9.1 and 250TB of uploaded....

Also my hard drive is getting full. I guess I have to clean up some torrents soon.

Or buy new storage

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 days ago

Buy more storage. Cheers. Awesome ratio.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 days ago

I seed EVERYTHING until i run out of space. Qbitorrent doesn't like me having .torrent files in more than one drive, so i'm limited to my 14TB. But i have dozens of torrents that i'm only one of 2 or 3 people seeding it, so those help me upload hundreds of GB's with my terrible connection.

Also i'm on a private tracker, so leaving them seeding helps your ratio, even if you don't actually upload anything. They just try to encourage new people to seed and that is awesome.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I used to seed everything religiously. Then I joined some private trackers, and suddenly I felt like I needed to conserve all that upload bandwidth for torrents on private trackers. Humans kinda suck. I still seed plenty, tho:

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[–] Una@europe.pub 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why is it called seeding but where is sperm in question?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We could call it breeding instead

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People should learn how to seed. If you don't want to seed, just pay for Usenet.

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 20 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It's a shame Usenet has become fully paid. It's what ultimately pushed me into torrents. And the fact that small communities don't have all the content out there for you to download via Usenet.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Unfortunately my VPN provider doesn't support Port Forwarding (they're great in everything else, but suck on this) so if I just start seeding from scratch no peers will ever manage to connect to my machine. The only way I can contribute back to the community is when a Download session ends and starts seeding (basically all those peers that my machine checked during the download stage get recorded in the VPN's Router NAT as associated with my machine so if they try to connect to my machine later, for example to download a block, they get through), so my torrents are just left to seed after downloading (if I stop it and start seeding later, it might not work anymore depending on how long has passed).

Fortunatelly I have a fast internet connection and torrenting is done in a server machine, so I just leave it setup to a 2:1 seeding ratio for as long as it takes to get there and pretty much all torrents I download reach that seeding ratio (it pretty much only fails to reach that on really obscure torrents with very small swarms).

I've been sailing the high seas for over 3 decades and long ago saw the importance of doing my bit to keep the whole ecosystem alive.

So I might not be seeding everything I have (and as it's been 3 decades, I do have some stuff which is now very obscure), but everything I get from the community I seed 2x as much so that others can get it too.

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[–] Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I would seed if people ever used me. I only have so much space, and everytime I try to seed, there's either nobody downloading, or theirs a hundred other seeders.

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[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Isn't that what streamio effectively does?

[–] arararagi@ani.social 11 points 4 days ago

I do think this is the real issue, these programs like Kodi and stremio do exactly that.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I suffer with seeding unpopular torrents and rarely see my ratio even each 1.0

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No one wants my seed.

[–] GuardYaGrill@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Maybe one day ProtonVPN will fix their port-forwarding for their configuration files, I haven’t seen anyone else complain about this and their support is oblivious that this function even exists.

For people wondering the Learn More link just tells you what port forwarding does.

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