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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

How does this work is it a majority of MEPs form te decision of the entire country?

I wrote to mine and one came back that they were monitoring it but that child safety comes first. The other emphasised child safety but called out that this is not fit for purpose.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 23 hours ago

Fuuuuck. This sucks

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The wildest part of this to me is the politicians exempting themselves. It may be different in Europe, but in the US, the politicians are often the child predators this legislation claims to protect against.

The politicians claim "professional secrecy", but shouldn't you be increasingly auditable the more power you are given. Private individuals should have an expectation of privacy. Politicians, and those with power and influence should live in the open to protect from abuses of that power.

[–] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There is definitely an amount of valid secrecy in positions of power, half of politics would collapse if they couldnt corroborate their eggs in order in their coop. With regards to authority that defines what should be publicly auditable, it's rather a chicken and egg situation.

Before I hatch any more puns, generally politician's privacy at work, or anything related to their position << civilian privacy should be definitely the case. I do like the idea.

estonia is green

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I am surprised by Sweden and Denmark being in favor.

[–] themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

afaik denmark isn't just in favor, but they're also responsible for pushing the legislation higher on the agenda after it was dropped last time.
i think it's because the current ruling coalition consists of the "social democrat party" (actually just red flavored populist centerish party) in an alliance with the "moderate party" (centrist flavored center-right wing party) and the liberal (as in libertarianism) party (center-right/right/conservative party), so basically denmark has been under a quite conservative government lately, despite the PM selling the coalition as "across the center"

[–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Denmark is trying to pry open their centralized health records database so Palantir can use it 😂, I mean, you know for uh crime and stuff.

[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They've been reverting a lot of that Nordic socialism due to the usual anti-immigrant rhetoric

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago

Social democracy, not socialism

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I‘m not surprised in the slightest given who governs these countries nowadays. They‘re far more right than your average EU country.

[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Norway isn’t on this map

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 days ago

Norway is not EU

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ima be honest, things don't look good. Europe is our last hope before this shit comes over to America

It already has yo, just on a state level.

Meshtastic is not included in chat control, right?

(Inb4 they ban that too lol)

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago

I am so happy to see my little luxembourg oppose this authoritarian power grab.

[–] artiman@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

isn't the september 12 deadline over

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That was for tabling the vote, actual vote is happening on the 14th of October

[–] artiman@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

oh shit so chat control will happen

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

if you have trust in EUs checks and balances, it can still be stopped at one point or two, including because it is illegal according to EU laws

[–] Der_Fossyler@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago