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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And why would a government listen to some random drug addict?

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 22 points 6 days ago

Sadly, because he bought a megaphone. But Albo has shown a semblance of backbone when it comes to America, so there’s hope.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

same reason rich folk buy and run media and press companies

[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 25 points 6 days ago

We know you don't care about law fElon

[–] dellish@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Musk trying to frame himself as a human-rights activist is so cringe. Equating access to Xitter as a human right for minors while also trying to make out that his hate machine platform is somehow well moderated is pure insanity to anyone with a brain.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Your platform is shit and is the main reason these draconian laws are being proposed.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Who is still using fuckin' Twitter? Don't go to the nazi bar.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago

A lot of people

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Unless the speaker is a nazi

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So this means it's the right thing to do, got it.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

I wouldn't go that far. it means it hurts them too. climate change is not good either just because it will also hurt bad people.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Muskrat is worried about his Australian ad revenue. He's not capable of feeling emotions for other people.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Even a broken clock is right at least once a day.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

But right for the wrong reasons

[–] don@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

Shut your mouth, small man.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I fixed YouTube.... Removed the app from the TV and phone. Now we do other things.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That's how I fixed it too! We can still watch videos on a desktop if there is something specific we want to see, but I never let the algorithm do its work. Youtube recommends this video? Nah.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago

That site needs to be nuked

[–] moubliezpas@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

To be fair he does have a lot of experience in the toxicity of social media. He's an expert in the field.

It's like if e-coli had some serious concerns about your choice of antibacterial spray. Worth noting the objection, possibly with a little smile, and buying a few more bottles.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Elon Musk suuuuucks

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Musk = POS Nazi.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Am I about to see a forum of “progressives” and communist-wannabes argue for authoritarian, fascist laws and censorship because of their hatred for elon musk? I think I am haha

Nope.

Fuck that guy.

Fuck this bullshit legislation that was rammed though.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yep. Fascism started as a left wing ideology they haven't let that go only the name. Fascism is Italian and derived from the word Fasces (a bundle of wooden rods) a symbol of power used by the ancient Romans and many others. Here u can see Lincoln with Fasces as armrests. 1000008372

The same bundle of sticks which the word faggot is derived from so theirs a fun fact.

Mussolini coopted the socialist movement and ideology and rebranded it as fascism. He was also very friendly and allied with the national socialists (Nazis). Fascism is fundamentally a left wing ideology yet somehow people brand it as hard right perhaps cos it has such a bad reputation and the left didn't want to be associated with it.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

They got you! Authoritarians LOVE rebranding and confusing language, calling themself democratic people republic. Or calling themself national socialists depsite murdering the disabled! It makes no sense and they love doing it, because it confuses people like you!

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah I ain't confused. I recommend reading some history books related to the I development of said ideologies. Socialism is an economic system it has nothing to do with mortality or empathy or right or wrong.

Its an excellent thing to support if ur a populist as the majority under any system will have less wealth than the minority (its an expect mathematical distribution u see it everywhere) so collecting votes from the many while disposing of the few is the strategy of socialism. This of course slots in very conveniently with the ideas of eugenics and sacrifice the few undesirables to make the lives of the majority better. Same concept different context.

I believe you my friend are the one who has been got by populist left wing talking points without applying critical thinking.

You are right fascists love changing and confusing language. Now who in america is doing that kind of thing at the moment cos it sure seems like the left is the one playing the word games.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes you are confused. Fascism is not "fundamentally a left wing ideology" because they were friendly with the Nazis. Fascism was right authoritarianism, NSDAP (Nazis) was right authoritariansim. The Nazis were not a left party. You are completely confused by the "socialist" part in the name. Which they intentionally used to confuse. The term "socialist" was used for propaganda, to attract workers, but their policies were not socialist but were right-wing nationalist, authoritarian, racist. They used "socialist" to mean state control of certain aspects, but not collective ownership, and they opposed Marxist socialism.

80 year old propaganda still confusing you. What kind of books you reading? I'm curious.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Look at you parroting lemmy.ml arguments like its your fucking gospel.

Fascism's core ideology of total state control of the economy via corporatism, nationalising industries for the "collective good," and smashing individual property rights when they don't serve the masses' uprising against elitist straight out of leftwing playbooks, just wrapped in a different flag to confuse useful idiots like you.

Mussolini was a proud socialist before he evolved it; Hitler railed against "Jewish capitalism" while building welfare states for the volk.

Your "right-wing" label? That's the real propaganda, ignoring how both Nazis and fascists gutted markets and unions in pursuit of that egalitarian utopia you secretly love. Read some actual history beyond tankie meme chart and youtube videos titled top 10 reasons to be a communist.

As for books I'm sure u know that both Mussolini and hitler wrote about the development of their ideology and they are both dripping with socialist influences.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The famously "egalitarian" Nazis who thought provokingly also railed against the "Jewish capitalism" in their "egalitarian" pursuit of racial purity and a welfare state for the superior "egalitarian" Aryan volk?

Here is Mussolinis doctrine: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/14058/14058-h/14058-h.htm

"No individuals nor groups (political parties, associations, labour unions, classes) outside the State. For this reason Fascism is opposed to Socialism, which clings rigidly to class war in the historic evolution and ignores the unity of the State which moulds the classes into a single, moral and economic reality."

Straight out of the pigs mouth. Of course, it's still propaganda, he could have said it is socialism, and it still wouldn't be socialism if it isn't socialism. The same way you can call a pig a horse, or the Nazis egalitarian.

Whats a tankie btw?

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Whats a tankie btw?

Originally, these were western supporters of soviet/russian imperialism. Soviet imperialism was very much a seamless continuation of tsarist imperialism.

After WW2, Soviet Russia had military control of much of Europe. They installed authoritarian governments that were under their control, but of course there were occasional reform movements, notably in Hungary 1956 or Czechoslovakia 1968. Russia crushed these "revolts" with overwhelming military force. They sent in the tanks, and so those who favored military aggression were called "tankies".

Note: These were regular wars between countries by any definition.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

so collecting votes from the many

All the notable socialist states, Soviet Russia, Red China, Cuba, arose out of a "2nd amendment solution to tyranny", as might be said in the US.

The term "socialist" can be used in a much broader sense, but then the meaning is really unclear. I mean, you could call the US a socialist state. The left-wing revolutionaries, who founded it, claimed that all are born equal and fought a war to expropriate the rightfully inherited rights of the king. They even created a constitution to promote the general Welfare without even mentioning the protection of property.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

The original left/right distinction dates back to the French Revolution. During a brief episode, supporters of the monarchy found themselves sitting on the right and opponents (republicans and anarchists) on the left.

Later, the term conservatism was applied to the ideas of Edmund Burke, who defended a kind of constitutional monarchy.

In that sense, the US founding fathers were radical left-wing revolutionaries. However, that happened a bit before the French Revolution, so the term is anachronistic.

WW1 broke the power of monarchies in much of Europe. Fascism rose in the interwar period between WW1 and WW2 as a kind of Ersatz-Monarchy. The fascist leader did not present himself as the true heir to the throne, but as a man of the people. He did not claim his position "by the grace of god", but might invoke "providence". As such, a stout monarchist might genuinely call fascism left-wing. They would also think the US Republicans are left-wing extremists; at least insofar as the Republicans are republican.

Since fascism is in many ways similar to the more authoritarian versions of monarchism, fascist leaders gained the support of old monarchists. There weren't many of those around, but they still controlled key positions in government and industry. You were not a high military office, government official, or plain rich, if you had not kowtowed to the king.

Because of all the overt similarities in ideology, demographic support, and policy, fascism has always been considered a right wing ideology by any normal observer.