Is 'Russophobia' the same as 'Anti-semitism' in that it really means you're not allowed to criticise a certain governments for their genocidal actions?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago

Probably more like the shit the racist @jaennaet@sopuli.xyz is spouting in the other comment thread. https://lemmy.ml/modlog?commentId=21342474

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The downvotes prove the meme. Overtime I learned that liberals hate three specific groups: Arabs, Chinese and Russians; it is just who they are. After 2024 many US liberals added Latinos to the list.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago

tbf, Latinos were always on that list, and for a long while too... To prove this, they invented the term "America's Backyard".

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The meme implies hate against Russians. I donvoted it because I don't think that there is so much hate against the people of Russia and more against our little dictators government.

Of course there are idiots who are just hating Russians because of it.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Never give euro's the benefit of the doubt. There's centurys worth of history to prove me right.

edit: also this comment under this very post: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?commentId=21342474

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

I used to think the same. "They don't hate us, just our governments/extremists/etc..." Nah, it turns out they really hate us [Arabs] regardless.

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org -1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The Russian regime and its obsession with waging war against sovereign nations is the problem. No one with a sane mind hates the Russian populace. Same with the Chinese. Many people do seem to hate on Arabs for whatever dumb reasons (racism, cultural differences etc.) but that's a different discussion.

[+] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Small correction, The Kremlin isn't hated nearly enough.

[+] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

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[–] duhlieluh@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

that sounds pretty racist lmao. are you sure you know what youre talking about?

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

To be fair it's never clear cut. Government is made up of people in a democracy. Russia still labels itself a democracy, obviously it's been somewhat hard take their word for it given the anomalous approval ratings and the long standing history of corruption as well as the oligarchic roots that are still running through the country.

You're both right and wrong, the government is an extension of the citizens as to represent them. However, this government might not be representing them realistically anymore. So if you say the average person is responsible, that means they need to risk their and even their families safety and freedom. I think that's not fair, I don't know if I would be capable of this.

In conclusion (and because we know this from experience out of 1940s Germany) we need to burden them some responsibility for not revolting, but we can not punish them the same as government.

This excludes the specific perpetrators. If they have actual knowledge of the crimes, there is an argument to be made for moral implications from direct culpability and thus their actions underly a heightened level of criminalization and ethical scrutiny.