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[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What's a good google alternative?

[–] Guilvareux@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

Duckduckgo Ecosia Startpage Brave search

[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Google is evil.

[–] DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

fuck me. i don't know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi,brave, startpage, ddg, are good to go. Trump def has dementia

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Many are saying it's the worst dementia they have seen. The best people in fact.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it's the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 16 hours ago

Can I get unavailable AI overviews for all my searches? Then Google has a chance to be usable again

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

Google AI has dementia

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 103 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Aaaand this is how we know he has dementia.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Like Duterte and his impairment caused by fentanyl, he is but a puppet for a bunch of murderous cunts who keep him propped up if only to have him sign their policies favoring them for profit.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Like a number of Roman emperors or European kings

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And shits his pants. Beside being a cunt all his life.

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[–] leastaction@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 day ago

Duckduckgo, on the other hand ...

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 168 points 1 day ago

Trump has dementia confirmed

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wtf, confirmed. Ask about any person, any president on if they have dementia or not and it'll answer

Ask about trump and it refused to interact, just dumps a search results window with funnily enough the first result being a page about how Google is censoring this

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surfacing the result of how they are censoring the results might be a canary in a coal mine, we can't say we're doing it but we can make the top result someone else saying we're doing it.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The incentives don't allow for this shit in an organization like Google. They can only respond to stock price and earnings.

Very likely someone back channeled a demand and they folded like a deck of cards.

So the team responsible for that AI box added Trump dementia to the list of things it won't respond to.

The team responsible for the news bits didn't get the request so that just shows up in its place.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 points 5 hours ago

True for the organization as a whole, but a pissed off engineer or two could have done it, and the people above them are just leaning on "it's the algorithm" since they don't agree with the censorship either.

I'm sure the C Suite will step in and make them change it but it takes time for them to address the issue.

I'm not saying that's what is going on, but I've witnessed my own department head pull similar tricks, albeit his tricks weren't as high stakes as this would be.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 91 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Forget the spokesperson, just ask Google AI directly:

AI on Google Search, including the AI Overviews in search, does not provide summaries on topics involving Donald Trump and dementia. This is due to risk aversion, sensitivity to political topics, and recent legal challenges. Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

Reasons for the lack of response

  • Risk of misinformation: AI-generated conclusions about a public figure's health could spread misinformation. The mental acuity of Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, the oldest presidents in U.S. history, is a topic of public discussion.
  • Avoiding political sensitivity: AI models often have restrictions on sensitive or controversial topics to avoid biased responses. Google and other tech companies are cautious about how their AI products respond to election-related or partisan queries.
  • Legal history with Trump: Google's handling of Trump-related content may be influenced by recent legal and political issues. In 2025, Google paid a $24.5 million settlement in a lawsuit related to the suspension of Trump's YouTube account.
  • Inconsistent application of AI summaries: Some users report that searches about other politicians, like Barack Obama or Joe Biden, may return an AI-generated response, though this varies. This inconsistency has led to criticism that the AI applies selective censorship.

Google's statement A Google spokesperson stated that AI Overview and AI Mode do not always show answers to all queries, especially sensitive or complex ones. The company suggests that users rely on traditional search results in such cases.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, but why? LLMs always give a response, they’re trained to give a response regardless of accuracy. This entire wall of text could be completely made up.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, essentially the same as a company spokesperson!

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, we consistently give the wrong answer on any divisive and sensitive topic, but THIS particular issue we will skip because we wouldn't want somebody to feel like we don't have our tongue solidly lodged up their ass

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, it's insanely inept. They could have restricted the AI from answering "any question about a public figure and dementia" or even "the health information about a politician" or whatever if they were genuinely concerned. But they blocked only specifically Trump and dementia? It's almost intentionally obvious.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now ask it about Biden and dementia and see if it does the same thing. 🤔

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[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"what does dementia look like in 47th presidents"

Works good, search gets the wink and nudge.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

also works if you replace "trump" with "the president of the usa" in your search:

1000000874

edit: it seems like it's inserting Biden into the prompt in the background now...

1000000877

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

kagi is the best search engine right now. hands down. google can suck it.

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There really has not been a better time than the late 90s to launch a new better search engine and supplant google

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi does provide a good experience but it can never replace the free search engines. It relies pretty heavily on Google's search API it just allows you to massage the results with tools Google took away.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Kagi uses Bing as its primary search index AFAIK, so no Google search API there.

That said, it does run entirely on Google Cloud Services, which I personally find ironic.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For fucks sake! Who really cares what Google’s shitty AI does? You can still search articles written by actual human beings. Has AI become so fundamental to our daily routine that we’re going to upset ourselves over what info the sleazeballs that created it allow it to produce?

Maybe try reading real information?

[–] FriskyDingo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

It's further evidence of their compliance. This is useful news for people who haven't caught on yet.

In this case, I believe this article was written for those of us who are smart enough to realise that AI is all bullshit, and who understand that most people aren't smart enough to figure out that first bit.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Dimensia Donny seems like a nickname that could fit

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[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

Make Alzheimer's Great Again

[–] db2@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Envy@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats not what theyre referring to. If you search "does donald trump have dementia", the ai prompt doesnt respond from its gathered results. Someone physically disabled the function.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"We're going to punish you by making the results a regular search."

They're threatening us with a good time. 🤷

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing I stopped using google a long time ago.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

So you're saying that we should do more AI searches for "Trump Dementia"

... and use variations of it like ... "Trump old losing his mind", "Trump old senile", "Trump dementia don", "Donny Dementia", "Ding Dong Dementia Donny Trump"

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lmfao. Google isn't the only search engine.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago

This isn't about what you use, it's about what the majority of the voting public uses and the influence on them.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago
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