Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google
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fuck me. i don't know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.
What are you using now? I've been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn't sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.
Duckduckgo is the "change in 5 seconds" answer. Its better but still problematic somewhat. The search results are at least a ton better though.
i disagree. Google's results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.
i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it's just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.
two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don't find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.
there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for... you'll never guess but i use it sometimes.
I use duck duck go
Google is evil.
Kagi,brave, startpage, ddg, are good to go. Trump def has dementia
I use mojeek, and startpage sometimes. Ddg is too influenced now, they do the same stuff Google does. Brave is run by people who hate LGBT people so I can't support them in good conscience.
I've been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.
Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don't get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.
Kagi's summaries are great.
They're hidden by default, requiring you to click the button first. They don't extrapolate too much. And their sources will be the exact same links you got from the search.
I just put a question mark at the end and it does it automatically. Works like a charm.
What's a good google alternative?
Kagi.
The downside is that it costs $10 per month.
The upside is:
- Privacy first
- You can pin websites to the top of results, promote them so they appear higher, demote them so they appear lower, or have them completely removed
- Lenses - quickly tell Kagi what type of results you want (News sources, academic articles, forum posts, programming sites, small web, etc.)
- Snaps - search shortcuts kinda like bangs. Eg, typing
@wis the same as typingsite:wikipedia.com - An actual good AI summary. Completely unobtrusive - only activated when you press the button, doesn't overextrapolate your request, and will only source the same results that you get from the search
- Direct image results
When I first migrated a couple years ago, it was a bit worse than Google but pretty close. Nowadays, I find it to be much much better. It's honestly close to how Google was back in 2015 before they made it garbage.
If you don't mind paying a little I have found that Kagi is the best. Sure, the others mentions are free but subpar, even to google. Kagi is simply better but with the downside of a monthly subscription. I love that they are quite transparent with changelogs and stuff when the make changes.
Duckduckgo Ecosia Startpage Brave search
Many are saying it's the worst dementia they have seen. The best people in fact.
The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it's the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.
This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.
Can I get unavailable AI overviews for all my searches? Then Google has a chance to be usable again
Google AI has dementia
Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.
Aaaand this is how we know he has dementia.
Like Duterte and his impairment caused by fentanyl, he is but a puppet for a bunch of murderous cunts who keep him propped up if only to have him sign their policies favoring them for profit.
Like a number of Roman emperors or European kings
Duckduckgo, on the other hand ...
Trump has dementia confirmed
Forget the spokesperson, just ask Google AI directly:
AI on Google Search, including the AI Overviews in search, does not provide summaries on topics involving Donald Trump and dementia. This is due to risk aversion, sensitivity to political topics, and recent legal challenges. Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.
Reasons for the lack of response
- Risk of misinformation: AI-generated conclusions about a public figure's health could spread misinformation. The mental acuity of Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, the oldest presidents in U.S. history, is a topic of public discussion.
- Avoiding political sensitivity: AI models often have restrictions on sensitive or controversial topics to avoid biased responses. Google and other tech companies are cautious about how their AI products respond to election-related or partisan queries.
- Legal history with Trump: Google's handling of Trump-related content may be influenced by recent legal and political issues. In 2025, Google paid a $24.5 million settlement in a lawsuit related to the suspension of Trump's YouTube account.
- Inconsistent application of AI summaries: Some users report that searches about other politicians, like Barack Obama or Joe Biden, may return an AI-generated response, though this varies. This inconsistency has led to criticism that the AI applies selective censorship.
Google's statement A Google spokesperson stated that AI Overview and AI Mode do not always show answers to all queries, especially sensitive or complex ones. The company suggests that users rely on traditional search results in such cases.
Okay, but why? LLMs always give a response, they’re trained to give a response regardless of accuracy. This entire wall of text could be completely made up.
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Wtf, confirmed. Ask about any person, any president on if they have dementia or not and it'll answer
Ask about trump and it refused to interact, just dumps a search results window with funnily enough the first result being a page about how Google is censoring this
Surfacing the result of how they are censoring the results might be a canary in a coal mine, we can't say we're doing it but we can make the top result someone else saying we're doing it.
The incentives don't allow for this shit in an organization like Google. They can only respond to stock price and earnings.
Very likely someone back channeled a demand and they folded like a deck of cards.
So the team responsible for that AI box added Trump dementia to the list of things it won't respond to.
The team responsible for the news bits didn't get the request so that just shows up in its place.
True for the organization as a whole, but a pissed off engineer or two could have done it, and the people above them are just leaning on "it's the algorithm" since they don't agree with the censorship either.
I'm sure the C Suite will step in and make them change it but it takes time for them to address the issue.
I'm not saying that's what is going on, but I've witnessed my own department head pull similar tricks, albeit his tricks weren't as high stakes as this would be.
"what does dementia look like in 47th presidents"
Works good, search gets the wink and nudge.
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kagi is the best search engine right now. hands down. google can suck it.
There really has not been a better time than the late 90s to launch a new better search engine and supplant google
Kagi does provide a good experience but it can never replace the free search engines. It relies pretty heavily on Google's search API it just allows you to massage the results with tools Google took away.
Kagi uses Bing as its primary search index AFAIK, so no Google search API there.
That said, it does run entirely on Google Cloud Services, which I personally find ironic.
So what your saying is it doesn't rely on just one but two massive corps to actually deliver it's product which is ment to be an alterative to those very products?
Kek
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