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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think this is completely missing the point when it's talking about "the minutiae of art". It's making two claims at the same time: art is better when you suffer for it and the art is good whether or not you suffered. But none of that is relevant.

When Wyeth made Christina's World, I don't know if he suffered or not when painting that grass. What I do know is that he was a human with limited time and the fact that he spent so much of his time detailing every blade of grass means that he's saying something. That The Oatmeal doesn't draw backgrounds might be because he's lazy, but he also doesn't need them. These are choices we make to put effort in one part and ignore some other part.

AI doesn't make choices. It doesn't need to. A detailed background is exactly the same amount of work as a plain one. And so a generated picture has this evenly distributed level of detail, no focus at all. You don't really know where to look, what's important, what the picture is trying to say. Because it's not saying anything. It isn't a rat with a big butt, it's just a cloud of noise that happens to resemble a rat with a big butt.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's just a cloud of noise that happens to resemble a rat with a big butt.

I’d like this on my tombstone

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Visitor to your grave: "...I need more context."
Your ghost: "It's about AI art."
Visitor: "...I still don't get it."
Ghost: "That's because you're a robot. Everybody's just robots now. Us ghosts are all that's left of humanity. All that you know is based on what we suffered to learn and create."
Robot visitor: "...but why a rat with a big butt?"
Ghost: "Draw one, and reflect on the cloud of noise that you produce instead."
Robot: *draws a rat with a big butt
Ghost: "...AI wasn't as good back then. Fuck you." *whisps away

[–] angrox@feddit.org 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What a beautiful read. I feel the same about AI art and I remember a longer talk I had with my tattoo artist: 'I need the money so I will do AI based tattoos my clients bring to me. But they have no soul, no story, no individuality. They are not a part of you.'

I feel the same.

Also I like Oatmeal's reference to Wabi Sabi: The perfection of imperfection in every piece of art.

[–] sthetic@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

At least by redrawing it, the tattoo artist is injecting (pun intended) some of the human skill and decision-making into it?

But, ugh! Who would get an AI tattoo?

And what's the point? Let's say I have an idea of a tattoo I want (Jack Sparrow, dressed in a McDonald's uniform, fighting off a rabid poodle, in the style of Baroque painting), but I cannot draw. So I use AI to render it, how clever!

But wait - a tattoo artist will be physically drawing it anyway. They know how to develop concepts into sketches, don't they?

Just get them to do it! Skip the pointless AI step!

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago

I appreciate this bit out of context:

Also loved the shoutout to Allie Brosh!

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 14 points 6 days ago

"Yes, but I'll be quick, I promise."

Isn't quick.

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