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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Hey y'all. Reminder not to trust a platform owned and operated by a Nazi manchild.

[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 129 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

TL;dr of the article :

  1. They keep your private key on their servers.
  2. Their implementation allows for AITM attacks.
  3. It's closed source.
  4. There's no perfect forward secrecy.

This secret stays between you, me, and Elon.

I hope politicians use the hell out of it, so we can see what they really think when it gets (inevitably) hacked in a few weeks.

They keep your private key on their servers.

Then it's literally not even E2EE, lol

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 24 points 5 days ago (11 children)
[–] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

Are you sure that site is trustworthy? It kinda reads like an LLM being told to explain the difference between two names for the same thing and basically rephrasing the same thing. I'd imagine it might just be a different name to get rid of a male-coded word.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 days ago
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s just MITM but with extra steps

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago

Ah yes, Malcolm in the Middle is behind this all along.

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[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 days ago

Shouldn't trust it yet.

Or ever.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 103 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (16 children)

offering me end-to-end encrypted chat

No one - not even X - can access or read your messages

This key is then stored on X’s servers

So...they're just blatantly lying?

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Right, they have the key, and the lock, but the key isn't in the lock, so it's utterly impossible for them to access it.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Typical corpo doublespeak

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's encrypted with a 4 digit pin so they'll have to spend at least 316.8809e-10 years on brute-forcing it.

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's why my PIN is 5 digits: 12345

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One. Two. Three. Four. Five?

That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage.

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

XChat, has some red flags.

With a white circle and a swastika inside?

[–] Mohamad20ZX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

I hope Elon musk gets cancelled(cancer) for this useless nonsensical black box

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago

probably??? try definitely and ever

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

"xchat" sounds like one of those porn chat rooms

[–] notgivingmynametoamachine@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you trust ANYTHING Musk has for you well then have I got a bridge to sell you.

[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 17 points 4 days ago

Brain damaged people trust x again.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

...yet? How bout just not trusting it at all?

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

Hah, beat me by 17 seconds!

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Probably shouldn't? How 'bout definitely shouldn't, ditto for Twitter in general. Give ATproto shit all you want but at least you can move to an independent PDS with it.

Granted ActivityPub is still ideal over ATproto, but both are better than a centralized black box.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Yet? More like never.

How about: "You probably should trust or use X at all... ever."

"The guy who helped install Donald Trump, did a Nazi Salute at Trump's victory parade on live TV, supports authoritarians, and who has declared war on transgender people to the point you're not allowed to say "Cis" or "Cisgender" on his platform, has created an end to end encrypted chat."

All of this has the same vibes as the time Brigham Young University amended their code of conduct to allow people to come out as queer, let some students come out, and then changed the CoC back and expelled the students.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago
[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 days ago (5 children)

That "yet" is the narrative hook to trick us into feeling like it will soon be trustworthy, and that our assumed suspicions refer to a temporary state of untrustworthiness. Clever girls!

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[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

~~shouldn't trust it yet~~ shouldn't trust it ever

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Why are people evening using this site anymore? It’s been severely compromised.

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[–] Zeon@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's proprietary, how could you possibly trust it?

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't trust anything coming out of Elon's fascisthole. Deleted the app when he bought it and never looked back.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I refuse to even click on links. If a friend sends me an X link to something funny/interesting I tell them "I don't click on Nazi links" and ask them to find me another source.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 18 points 5 days ago

Yet? What kind of idiot would imagine that X would or could provide actual secure communication?

[–] edgarzen@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Signal and encrypted email only.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Friends and I swapped our group chat to Signal the day Trump was inaugurated...the first time.

If things keep going the way they are, no one should be communicating on anything but encrypted messaging apps.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Our good friend Elon cannot be trusted? I don't believe you, this must be propaganda to discredit his good manners.

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[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I wouldnt trust X with a picture of my shoes

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