This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
A true man of the people.. looking out for average man, absolutely no vested interest in hyping ai to the moon.
Sure, pal
Bill Gates is full of shit
Always has been *astronaut meme *
He also partied with Epstein.
Bill Gates a lucky autismo with a privileged upbringing that never gets mentioned. If he knew what he was doing, be would have nuked davos and the G7 decades ago
It's common knowledge that his parent's wealth opened doors for him.
privileged upbringing that never gets mentioned
I think you're 20 or 25 years out of date on that one.
More like 40
So like 10 guys will have jobs. Each with a $1,000,000.00 salary to incrementally continue feeding the rich. Below them everyone will be totally jobless so robots will be made to scrape them off the streets. The "garbage" (us) will be then tricked out to the generator "rooms" powering the AI turbines.
There is a vital question coming up. When the machines do all the work, does that mean everyone eats? Or no one?
Right now it is "no one" roughly speaking. That must change. There is no future for anyone there, just nightmares unfolding and unfolding.
It‘s phrased „warns“ because it is just assumed that no one will eat. Because apparently that‘s a normal thing to assume in our society. That we‘ll all just starve to death soon.
I don‘t think we will but it‘s telling that a lot of rich and influential people do and are not only letting it happen but actively supporting it.
Because apparently that‘s a normal thing to assume in our society.
It's just very difficult to think outside of society , to think of a working society without the organizing power of money and labor. And even more difficult to think about the path to get there.
…unless you have watched Star Trek and the like.
Well we are on our way to WW3 so perhaps we'll get there.
Earlier this year, Geoffrey Hinton, dubbed the "Godfather of AI," highlighted the severe wealth disparity that AI developments could generate.
"We're talking about having a huge increase in productivity. So there's going to be more goods and services for everybody. So everybody ought to be better off, but actually it's going to be the other way around," Hinton stated during a panel discussion. "And it's because we live in a capitalist society."
"And so what's going to happen is: this huge increase in productivity is going to make much more money for the big companies and the rich, and it's going to increase the gap between the rich and the people who lose their jobs. And as soon as you increase that gap, you get fertile ground for fascism," he continued. "And so it's very scary that we may be at a point where we're just making things worse and worse."
This seems spot-on to me. All you downvoters obviously didn't read the article.
Unfortunately, this place became just like reddit.
Far be it for me to point out that the "godfather of AI" has a vested interest in AI being seen as more capable than maybe it actually is. But more to the point we know that AI systems like loose on an environment cause absolute chaos and fail disastrously.
There was an experiment a couple of months ago where they tried to get an AI to run a small business and I think at one point it ended up sending emails to the FBI claiming it had been defrauded because a product it ordered didn't instantly materialise.
Always feels like it's less that ai can't do the things we keep trying to make it do. But that we are acting like we have had another 20 years of development in the tech.
So everyone's just playing make believe and pretending it's 2045 in 2025.
Don’t worry, he will be saying the opposite after he dumps whatever stock he’s trying to pump.
Why is it that every time they say stuff like this it always sounds like an advertisement.
"Our product is going to bring about the end of days, buy it now!!!"
Good observation. I think part of it is, that's just how these business douchebags talk about everything.
So now it's "AI" that should allow us to profit from the efficiency increases you assholes actively siphoned off for yourself for decades??
Sounds good to me.
I get to keep the same salary and just use AI to make my work easier, right?
Right?
Warns?
This is great!
Not if you only receive 40% of the wages too because the gains go to the capitalists.
Well, he too needs to stay relevant somehow. Making ragebait statements is one way.
Microsoft can't even make a good operating system anymore. I don't trust their ability to make an operating system work on a weekly basis.
What’s that got to do with bill gates?
He's still a huge influence on the company.
He used to be the CEO and M$ is pushing AI every way they can, regardless
So it sounds like he's saying no one will work enough to qualify for employer sponsored healthcare... Or at least be able to afford it.
So congrats, don't ever get sick or lose a job! Plus your taxes are going up. Fuck you, you should have been a rich pedophile if you wanted differently!
Thanks for spending billions on malaria, asshole. If you would have paid your fucking taxes and supported the country we wouldn't be in this mess.
Oh yeah, a politically unstable US will directly lead to local conflict between factions in African countries. Thanks to your malaria funding there's now more rape victims and child soldiers than ever!
Don't forget HIV, which the US is no longer supplying aid for
No clue why this article is being downvoted to hell. Is this not relevant to c/technology? 🤷🏻
Worked at Lowe's last year. No AI is going to replace what any of us were doing except maybe making the scheduling lady's life easier, but we would still need her.
People still need to buy household goods, need advice from experts, need help and labor in 1,000 ways that AI cannot replace.
Until we have relatively inexpensive, multipurpose robots, much of this talk is moot. Humans are the AR-15s of the animal kingdom. Not the best at anything, weak in many ways, but we're reliable, tough and suited for many roles. I cannot imagine an AI powered robot that could work all the tasks I was faced with.
No clue why this article is being downvoted to hell.
The title has the word “AI” in it - the hivemind is practically trained to reflexively downvote and leave a mean comment anytime those two letters show up.
Fucking ridiculous around here. Seen 20-yo images, "Is this AI slop?!" It's the cool kid thing to do now I guess.
"I'm so smart! I hate AI and can spot it anywhere!"
The Express is not a reliable source for information. It's a shitty right-wing rag that just makes shit up.
Problem - They'll want to pay you for 0 days a week.
Don't fret peons!
The billionaires will become trillionaires and you will become poorer.
Win / win.
Race to retire in 5 years. Got it.
If this post has a score of -23, why is it in the top ten items I’m seeing on Lemmy?
No it won't.
so he's gonna give us money for free?
That's possible.
That being said, John Maynard Keynes also made a similar prediction:
The economist John Maynard Keynes once wrote an essay titled "Economic Possibilities For Our Grandchildren." It was 1930. And in the essay, he made a startling prediction. Keynes figured that by the time his children had grown up, basically now, people might be working just 15 hours a week.
The specific quote:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes
For many ages to come the old Adam will be so strong in us that everybody will need to do some work if he is to be contented. We shall do more things for ourselves than is usual with the rich to-day, only too glad to have small duties and tasks and routines. But beyond this, we shall endeavour to spread the bread thin on the butter-to make what work there is still to be done to be as widely shared as possible. Three-hour shifts or a fifteen-hour week may put off the problem for a great while. For three hours a day is quite enough to satisfy the old Adam in most of us!
"Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren" (1930); appeared in the Nation and Athenaeum (1930)
Basically, had we decided to leave our standard of living where it was in 1930, we could have worked two days a week. But...that's not generally what people wanted to do. We wanted to take advantage of new stuff that people produced to appeal to us, jack up our standard of living.
In the past, we've always managed to come up with new, appealing things that wind up making use of that new productive capacity. Climate control or anime video games or more space per person in housing.
Is it possible that in the future, we will be unable to make use of scarce human labor to provide something that humans want? Maybe! And that's something to think about. But simply the fact that human labor is finite, that things that involve human labor can be used like a status symbol, might itself fill the problem. We shall see.
One thing that I do agree with is that transition from the world of today to a world with AGI is going to be a very disruptive transition.
The one thing that this whole analysis is missing is this: There is a ton of work to do. The oceans are dying. The planet is boiling. The garbage is stacking up, endless and endless. There are crimes big and small going undiscovered, or un-processed and dealt with in a trustworthy fashion if they are discovered. There are wars, there are dangerous materials that need to be removed from the soil and the rivers, and the policies need to be set up and enforced to stop their cousins from replacing them within the year. WE'RE NOT FUCKING DONE. This illusion is wholly wrong that capitalism has created, that it is fine to drive the car off the cliff as long as we keep paying salaries and dividends up until the moment of impact comes
Yes, we've gotten more efficient and powerful in our ability to translate a human into an effective change in conditions at the earth's surface. But the problems have gotten bigger, too, and more urgent to the point that they threaten our entire species. Just because we can now keep growing the food and doing layout for the advertisements with only 15 hours a week, doesn't mean that's all we need to fucking do.
OK but Maynard James Keenan said that some say we'll see Armageddon soon; certainly hope we will. I sure could use a vacation from this bullshit three ring circus sideshow.
