I should use python more. I like when people have principles.
this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2025
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Jesus the current US administration are cartoonishly evil. History is not going to be kind to the United States. In 30 Years there is going to be a museum with a little plaque on the wall and it'll say "did you know the United States used to be a relevant world power?".
NSF: "We'll give you money as long as you don't hire minorities".
Python: "Get fucked."
Chad shit
Besides the anti-woke bullshit, it's just a bad idea to accept. It is absolutely not normal for a grant to have stipulations that if you violate some vaguely defined criteria somewhere in your organization, it can be clawed back at a later time. That's a huge liability for an organization to take on that they may suddenly owe a million dollars some time in the future.
I mean basically yeah, "DEI" and "Woke" are right wing buzzwords that basically can mean whatever, and the Trump admin et al know this. They could say "letting x people use this is woke" or "hiring y people is DEI". The Anti-DEI movement is just an excuse for actual discrimination because now we have people being fired not because they are unfit for their job, but because they're from a minority who was deemed more qualified than someone who was White, Male and Cishet.
I mean Hegseth fired the Chief of Naval Operations because she was a woman. Straight up.
What a time we live in. It really feels like a fever dream
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Congratulations for having a real spine and showing the world that money isn't everything
Thank you python team
That's right. Fuck anti-DEI. DEI is the future and good.
DEI, otherwise known as hiring the right person for the job, regardless of label. It's wild that meritorious hiring principles aren't the norm in this country. Have to find out what you are before who you are matters.
Uncritical application of DEI methods without due consideration for the objectives isn't reasonable.
But signing a contract that says "if you do anything we can construe as DEI we can demand payback of all the support you falsely relied on" is like stepping on a landmine and hoping the fuse stops working before you have to step off.
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The Seattle zoo also rejected federal funding with these strings. My wife lost her job because of it. Because it was just for one program and the no-DEI was organization wide…
Apparently the Portland Zoo signed it… No one expected that shit. We both let her parents know that this is because of their vote in another state.
There's an often repeated theme in philosophy that any gift that comes with conditions is actually just business.
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Good for them. It is good to see people do something right for once.
In 2 days the White House will order every companie to stop using python because of woke or something
Imagining all the llm dorks suddenly trying to learn typescript over the weekend
It makes me very happy to think about
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One of our geology grants got hit for mentioning mineral inclusion. Total clown show.
An administration that uses LLMs and Ctrl + F and vibes for policy decisions that don't sound good even before you realize they don't make sense, and ignores courts and due process... it's a hazard to touch.
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Hey look someone with integrity, morals, principles and balls. Sadly all four of those seem to be highly endangered traits.
I’m deeply proud of Python for standing by its community and making the right decision.
After growing up watching things like Bill Nye, seeing names like the NSF saying shit like this is like an actual fucking nightmare reality. It's just so incredibly wrong.
The python foundation should have asked them to define the terms of the contract in a document. At least that way we would have had a legal definition of what woke means in their eyes. Because I'm reasonably confident that even they don't know.
How is it legal to basically say "We'll give you some money if you promise to keep the blacks out of your organisation"
Because Congress and the Supreme Court have been captured entirely by fascists.
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Fucking hell, good for the PSF for maintaining their values. I'll make a donation when I get paid. I'm sure they would appreciate it if any one else can spare a dollar or two.
https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&id=2
Edit: Added donation link
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To make matters worse, the terms included a provision that if the PSF was found to have voilated that anti-DEI diktat, the NSF reserved the right to claw back any previously disbursed funds, Crary explained.
Likely why it was not accepted
Yeah, even if they weren't willing to take a principled stance, that's really dangerous. Especially with how temperamental these fascists are.
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