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Minecraft: Java Edition has been obfuscated since its release. This obfuscation meant that people couldn’t see our source code. Instead, everything was scrambled – and those who wanted to mod Java Edition had to try and piece together what every class and function in the code did.

Modding is at the heart of Java Edition – and obfuscation makes modding harder. We're excited about this change to remove obfuscation, as it should make it quicker and easier for modders to create and improve mods. Now you won’t have to untangle tricky code or deal with unclear names. What’s more, de-bugging will become more straightforward, and crash logs will actually be readable!

surprisingly fantastic and consumer friendly move from mojang, good on them

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (22 children)

Why not go open source? What are they so afraid of, given anyone can now see the source code by using a simple tool?

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 110 points 1 day ago (11 children)

So, what's the catch? Surely Microsoft and Mojang didn't just suddenly become good?

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 103 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The monkeypaw says they will stop updates for the java edition or release a new version that doesn't work on the java edition.

They probably see how many sales are generated from the free work done by modders though. If someone wants to come along and do for free the thing you might have to actually pay designers, developers, artists and all the support staff for and they still need to pay you to play it, you'd be foolish not to encourage the exploitation of free labor.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Call me ignorant, if this happened and it brought a new golden era of modding (1.7.10 style) where everyone's playing the same version I'd be maybe the happiest player ever.
Modders backporting content is nothing new, hell, they even brought the mobs that didn't make the cut from those stupid mob votes to life.
Let modding become the new updates, fuck it. At this point they'd likely be better realised than Microsoft's efforts.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Young generations and mobile players are on bedrock

Everyone else plays Java where you can easily self-host a server

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[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Havent they been making changes to help mod/datapack development for a while?

Modding is such a big part of the game, helping it would get more people playing the game

[–] SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They made "datapack" which is a way of playing with mods without having to use third-party mod loaders like Forge and Fabric but (don't quote me on this as I'm not a mod developer) it's not as powerful compare to the mod loaders.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. Mods can change basically EVERYTHING, compared to datapacks being able to change only what mojang wants.

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I guess it just doesn't make sense to obfuscate it when mods in general runs the Minecraft community in turn making more profit to Mojang/Microsoft. My other suspicion is potential competition. There is this game called Vintage Story which kinda directly competes with Minecraft seems gaining ground and was built to be moddable from the start.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Luanti eating on their turf.

[–] simple@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago

I doubt microsoft even knows what luanti is

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 124 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I look forward to several critical CVE being discovered like log4j

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 day ago

Unironically, me too. They're there now, waiting to be discovered. We can find them now on our terms or be surprised by them later.

[–] DanWolfstone@leminal.space 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't log4j originally found by 2b2t players, then used maliciously and reported later on, then going onto get fixed by every major server framework like bukkit, paper, fabric, and more?

[–] sus@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nah, it was found sometime before november 24 2021, publicly disclosed in december 9 2021, and only used by 2b2t players on december 10 2021.

[–] Unattributed@feddit.online 19 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Not only do I think this will generate a fair number of CVE's, I think there will be a lot of optimization of the code going on.

Look at what happened with OpenOffice a few years back -- the Oracle buyout of Sun Microsystems forced the forking of OpenOffice to LibreOffice -- during which the new Dev team took the time cleanup and refactor the code. This resulted in a suite that was about 10 percent smaller, and removed a bunch of redundant things (like multiple copies of icons).

I bet we see something similar with Minecraft -- even if it can't be an "authorized" version.

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[–] leburb@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I like to think that Luanti caused this.

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[–] Justifier@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This paired with the bedrock gdk release and changes to the file path so that we don't need to use iobit unlocker to mod rtx files is some hella good vibes

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Oh I see it’s that time of the year where Mojang gives the community a bone after stomping on them the rest of the year.

Anyways as someone who has worked on Java projects extensively since 2020, very little will actually change from this. The main problem of Mojang’s asinine version numbering will continue to be a problem for any modding, server, building and resource pack projects past 1.19.

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[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can't say I saw that coming, particularly after Microsoft bought them. Nice to have a surprise be pleasant once in a while.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

The most profitable decision for MS is to leave the golden goose alone.

[–] RedStrider@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolute cowards. Won't even release the comments.

[–] RedStrider@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

"No" - Bartosz Boq 2025

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Nice I just got back into all the mods 10 last night

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Do you play on a server?

I haven't found fun modded 'communities' since like 1.7.10. All Forge modded servers I've tried either seem to be 'commercial' servers with zero render distance and basically no community, or ghost towns.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Every Minecraft update just makes me hum "Where's the modding API" again.

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