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>be me
>highschool gym class
>shirts vs skins
>take off shirt
>gym teacher sees my bruises
>get called into office
>asked if bruises are from home
>no these are from school
>oh ok
>never chosen for skins again
>thanks gym teacher

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 255 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nobody cares about bullying, until the victim decides to fight back. Then it’s “zero tolerance” for violence

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 113 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This was probably 25 years ago at this point but I got sent to the principal's office along with the kid that attacked me and I didn't even have a chance to fight back before an adult showed up to stop it. Didn't matter, got the same "shame on you" even though I literally did nothing.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 9 months ago

I was in martial arts in highschool, and the star student got in a fight. Advanced levek blackbelt, teaching lessons himself, winning regional competitions, wanted to do mma and teach it shortly before it really became a known thing, think he actually does that now.

I had recently watched this guy hold his own sparring against the lead instructor of our "dojo" and the lead instructor for the state. They came at him one at a time, but it was one contiuous match.

The star student did not initiate the fight at school. He could have broken the kid who attacked him in half without much effort, but he didn't even attempt to block. He knew the zero tolerance rules and didn't want anything to come back on him.

If I recall right, the attacker broke or sprained the star student's arm. School admin still came down on him. It took intervention by state level people in our martial arts org and numerous others for them to let him back before the attacker.

This sounds like some adolescent power fantasy, but it's not. Just absolutely fucking absurd.

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

They loved to do that shit in the 90's. It got to where if someone threw a punch you went all out because you knew everyone was getting suspended no matter what

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

It's worth it to smash bullies right in the nose.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 118 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

shirts vs skins? is the school too poor to get some coloured vests? were the girls supposed to take off their shirt too? how is this acceptable?

[–] SLaSZT@kbin.social 43 points 9 months ago (5 children)

High school gym classes are usually separated by gender. That said, I think this is fake - pinnies/vests are not very expensive and can be reused for years.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

even if separated, even for boys this feels icky. and if there's no coloured vest then how are the girls forming teams?

[–] SLaSZT@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You'd have to ask the 4chan OP about the lore of his made-up universe, I have no idea.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Uh, naw shirts vs skins absolutely was a thing in the 2000s. I hated it. Pretty SURE* girls did boring shit instead of team sports though.

Edit whoops

[–] ZeroTemp@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

I remember the girls always walking the track while the boys had to participate in whatever the planned unit was.

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

When I was in high school only girls got pinnies on a regular basis. It was icky. Gym class was also segregated.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

so the pinnies were there but they were only used for the girls?

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sort of, there were only enough for one class. Boys & girls ran separately, but at the same time. We only got them if the girls weren't using them.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lol because buying extra would be so damn expensive

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

There seemed to be some political objection to it. It was a a strange time. Definitely a problem I had that I'm glad my son doesn't have to deal with.

[–] Surreal@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

That's US/EU standard. In many countries schools it's normal to not have luxuries like colored vest

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

You segregate by gender as well?

[–] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Definitely real, I did it in the 90s and hated it. You don't take your shirt off, you keep your arms in, but you raise the front behind your neck so it all bunches up at the top. I was chubby then and that was definitely a core memory of self-consciousness.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

We had em and still did skins vs shirts when it was hot outside

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 9 months ago

My school had yellow and red fabric ribbons that we worse around the shoulders. Super cheap and effective

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 25 points 9 months ago

This was very much a thing all over the US when I was young.

[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's fake or 20+ years old

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 9 months ago

Doesn't have to be. This is how it worked when I was in middle school. That was 3 years ago.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This whole thread is hilarious. I've never seen any sort of distinguishing mark used, throughout the years. Whether on the play grounds or during phys.ed classes, or when I was in sports clubs.

How on earth did we manage? Apparently we had enough brain cells to remember teammates.

Like, seriously, the whole discussion is so alien to me.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

maybe you had a small class, that or a big brain

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm talking about all the schools I've ever been to. There is no such thing as skins vs shirts, in France. Classes are around 30 people usually. Never even heard of it until I went on the Net and was exposed to the US culture.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you just remember which 15 people are in your group? Are the groups the same every time?

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From primary school, we would have people pick teams one at a time. So yeah, you would remember who was in your team. I think the most numerous game would be football, but that would rarely be eleven a side. I ain't saying I'd remember everyone's name, but yeah, you generally remember the people on your side.
It helps that people are generally running in the same direction, or trying to attack you, you know? Faking being on the same team so you'd get passed the ball... never happened, in my experience.
By mistake, sometimes, but you'd have so many of your team mates shout at you for the mistake that you'd not do it again, haha!

Like I said, I'm really baffled this isn't the norm. Maybe it's a Gen X thing?
But that makes no sense. Younger generations are supposed to be more sociable, with much larger pools of "friends". So surely it should be even easier for ye.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sounds like you just played a more limited array of sports. Football is honestly not easy without uniforms, but possible especially if 7v7 or something.

But playing ultimate Frisbee, capture the flag, etc without uniforms is essentially impossible. Remembering who is on your team isn't even the hard part. It's more because you need to make quick decisions and recognize who is open immediately.

So yeah... that's how uniforms work. I would be baffled if they weren't the norm.

Did y'all use uniforms in World War II? No wonder the Germans were able to slice through your defensive lines so easily, you couldn't tell who was on which team.